Fire +10 vs Chaos +5?

[PlaceHolder]

When would it be better to use Chaos?
For the Zweihander, a Fire +10 gives 364 + 364 = 728
On the other hand, a Chaos +5 with 10 Humanity gives 259 + 54 + 301 + 63 = 677

[rapu ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)]

Some weapons get more damage from Chaos path, and some doesn't.

[Charles Charles]

With little digging around, my calculations say that Fire+10 only gives 312/312=624, when Chaos+5 with 10 soft humanity gives 313/364=677. If you have humanity to spare, go for chaos.

[h-z]

OP, where did you got these numbers?
According to mugenmonkey calculator chaos+5 with 10 humanity does 676 dmg and fire+10 624 dmg.

IMO chaos is good for pvp because you will most likely always have more than 10 humanity and will stay on the same place near bonfire somewhere, and fire is good for pve because you don't need to worry about getting back to your bloodstain if you die somewhere in the middle of blightown.

[Zamus]

Chaos would be always better so long as you can keep 10 humanity.

[Maechen]

What would be the point of Chaos if Fire was better? It would make chaos totally redundant.

[Zefar]

Originalmente postado por dondi:

What would be the point of Chaos if Fire was better? It would make chaos totally redundant.

Enchanted weapons ain't all that good and they are quite useless.
Lightning also seems to be the better choice. It takes less to upgrade, easier stuff to find to upgrade and gives more damage. Also they seems to do more damage total too.

I'm also quite sure a lot of people often have more fire defense on their shield compared to lightning defense. Mainly because fire users can pose a big threat without a good shield if you're not good at dodging.

[Zamus]

Originalmente postado por dondi:

What would be the point of Chaos if Fire was better? It would make chaos totally redundant.

As I said so long as you keep 10 humanity chaos is better, on low Sl runs it's often better to use fire because you die a lot and there is a high risk of loosing humanity, also keep in mind that the vanilla version maxed the humanity at 30 instead of 10 providing the same bonus both for damage and item discovery and coupled with the fact that items had way lower drop rates and enemies were sligthly harder, it wasn't easy to keep the bonus at max.

[Maechen]

I find chaos better all round. It really isn't that hard to keep up. I've never rolled chaos fire for PvP, I always use standard path. In pvp i would imagine holding 10 humanity isn't difficult. I used to do a lot of low level runs with chaos but after a while NG is pretty simple minus maybe to a degree O&S. I just can't be bothered doing NG+ and beyond at SL1, but i guess that is the next PvE challenge.

[PlaceHolder]

Originalmente postado por h-z:

OP, where did you got these numbers?

I pulled them from here[darksouls.wikia.com].
I take it that the wiki is incorrect?

[Bloodyfish]

Originalmente postado por PlaceHolder:

Originalmente postado por h-z:

OP, where did you got these numbers?

I pulled them from here[darksouls.wikia.com].
I take it that the wiki is incorrect?

I only see the base damage, where did you get the 54 and 63?

[PlaceHolder]

Originalmente postado por Bloodyfish:

I only see the base damage, where did you get the 54 and 63?

That's the scaling from the +10 Humanity.