Hornet ring clarification.

[Country Roads]

Okay, someone please tell me why this ring is so hatred in community? It has been nerfed, and it is not crusial part in pvp. It really helps (at least me) learning how to parry because of great brutal animations.
Yet still,people just explode sometimes when they hear about it

[Fashionbeast]

Backstabs are already very powerful without the ring. Even with low effort, just with light equip load and a fast DEX-weapon you can almost reliable pull them off. Just add the ring and a certain attitude Tennage Dirtbag mentioned (bs fishing) and...

The ring of FaP has the same issues (no player skill/ character investment required -> maximum gain), but this thing at least breaks and cannot be switched out.

[Country Roads]

Originally posted by Smugbeast:

Backstabs are already very powerful without the ring. Even with low effort, just with light equip load and a fast DEX-weapon you can almost reliable pull them off. Just add the ring and a certain attitude Tennage Dirtbag mentioned (bs fishing) and...

The ring of FaP has some issues (no player skill/ character investment required -> maximum gain), but this thing at least breaks and cannot be switched out.

I see. But if I use it just for more damage output and fancy animations? (Yup, this is important as well)

[mortal]

Because of these backstab/parry fishing scrubs:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=492125643
They're worse than the DS2 meta players

[Fashionbeast]

The hornet ring has its reputation (or , better said, people, who like to use the ring) Don't wonder and moan here, if you get some salty comments from some people in pvp.

[Country Roads]

Originally posted by An Ocean:

Because of these backstab/parry fishing scrubs:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=492125643
They're worse than the DS2 meta players

I'm not talking about 100% BS\Parry strategy. But just to have more chances to win when opotent exposes himself
P.S. Dark Souls 2 pvp is broken. Damn hitboxes

[Hjelpmooglene]

You do get a few people who use the hornets ring with the ring of fog in dark areas. Dark Anor Londo and the forest are some places you would see it. The best place to do that would be the Tomb of Giants.

[Erebus]

Originally posted by Wanderer:

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P.S. Dark Souls 2 pvp is broken. Damn hitboxes

DS2 pvp is one of the few things they got right (for the most part) and the hitboxes are mostly fine the problem is everyone on a third world internet connection.

[Erebus]

Originally posted by Teenage Dirtbag:

Originally posted by Erebus:

DS2 pvp is one of the few things they got right (for the most part) and the hitboxes are mostly fine the problem is everyone on a third world internet connection.

nah ds2 pvp is ♥♥♥♥

DS1 pvp is worse, it is always just a dance to see who 1 shots the other first while dancing in circles either trying to dead angle or lagstab someone.

[Erebus]

Originally posted by Teenage Dirtbag:

Originally posted by Erebus:

DS1 pvp is worse, it is always just a dance to see who 1 shots the other first while dancing in circles either trying to dead angle or lagstab someone.

yeah i don't think you've played either game, judging from you just said

I have quite a bit actually. That said maybe I've just had terrible luck with ds1 multi.

[Country Roads]

Originally posted by Erebus:

Originally posted by Teenage Dirtbag:

yeah i don't think you've played either game, judging from you just said

I have quite a bit actually. That said maybe I've just had terrible luck with ds1 multi.

Dark Souls 2 hitboxes are really broken, Just go on youtube and search. Llllots of stuff like this. But people are adapting to it. I was just saying that I didn't have enough patience to get used to them

[mortal]

Originally posted by Erebus:

Originally posted by Teenage Dirtbag:

yeah i don't think you've played either game, judging from you just said

I have quite a bit actually. That said maybe I've just had terrible luck with ds1 multi.

DS2 PvP is also somewhat bad, but since the beta branch of this game became useless, I can't even PvP, and when I get to, it's with a laggy backstab fisher, so DS2 is better ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Erebus]

Originally posted by Wanderer:

Originally posted by Erebus:

I have quite a bit actually. That said maybe I've just had terrible luck with ds1 multi.

Dark Souls 2 hitboxes are really broken, Just go on youtube and search. Llllots of stuff like this. But people are adapting to it. I was just saying that I didn't have enough patience to get used to them

The bosses have broken hitboxes, but the weapons for the most part don't. It is just the netcode not accounting for people's terrible internet that makes it seem like the hitboxes are way the ♥♥♥♥ off.

[mortal]

Originally posted by Teenage Dirtbag:

Originally posted by An Ocean:

DS2 PvP is also somewhat bad, but since the beta branch of this game became useless, I can't even PvP, and when I get to, it's a laggy backstab fisher, so DS2 is better ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

nice opinion you have there ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I know right?

[Husk720]

Originally posted by Smugbeast:

The ring of FaP has some issues (no player skill/ character investment required -> maximum gain), but this thing at least breaks and cannot be switched out.

FaP Is bad?
Whaaaat???

[Country Roads]

Originally posted by Erebus:

Originally posted by Wanderer:

Dark Souls 2 hitboxes are really broken, Just go on youtube and search. Llllots of stuff like this. But people are adapting to it. I was just saying that I didn't have enough patience to get used to them

The bosses have broken hitboxes, but the weapons for the most part don't. It is just the netcode not accounting for people's terrible internet that makes it seem like the hitboxes are way the ♥♥♥♥ off.

You're right. Internet connection is not perfect in all countries. But DS 1 somehow is quite fine with this, and DS 2 is terribly laggy. Correct me if I'm mistaken. I really wish to get it right