Reverse hollow and kindle

[Mad Marduk]

I am at the bonfire before the first blacksmith. I want to kindle the bonfire, but I am not sure how that works. I know that I have to spend humanity to reverse hollow and then kindle. I don't know how much humanity it costs or if it comes out of my inventory or my chest. I know that I can't use estus while human and that I can't go back to hollow until I die. If I die as a human do I still have to go and retrieve all of my humanity and souls? I have 20 humanity in my chest right now (I have no idea where it actually came from, it just keeps showing up already equipped) and I really don't want to lose it. The drop rate it is giving me is fantastic. Can someone explain to me in detail how this whole thing works before I do it?

[Gotta Ramble]

You cant kindle until you get the rite of kinding way later on.

[Athrul]

A whole lot of wrong information there.

Reversing hollowing makes you human (i.e. non-wrinkly-dead looking) and you can summon phantoms in that form. Cists one humanity.
Kindling a bonfire costs another humanity and can only be done in human form.
You can only use humanity for these actions in its liquid form. So you need to use those black sprites. The counter in the top left corner will go up. That is your liquid humanity. It will be stripped of you when you die, just like your collected souls (i.e. money). You will also become hollow again when you die. Liquid humanity and souls can be retrieved from your bloodstain.

I would never put my humanity in in the bottomless box. Always carry it around. You cannot lose it as long as it is unused. Only used (liquid) humanity can be lost if you die without retrieving the bloodstain from your previous death.

And whoever told you that you can't use estus while human needs to be slapped really hard. You can't use estus while you are being summoned as a phantom, though.

[Athrul]

Originally posted by Gotta Ramble:

You cant kindle until you get the rite of kinding way later on.

Wrong!
You can kindle even further with the rite.

[Fawks]

Okay just ignore that guy before me.
All Human Appearance does, is enable multiplayer. Meaning you can get invaded and summon players for Coop etc. And you can still use Estus...
The only thing changing in case of death is that you will go back to being hollow, you will drop your loose humanity (the counter) + your souls as usual.
To kindle you have to have 2 Humanity in the counter, 1 to go human and another one to kindle.
Before you get the right of Kindling you can only kindle bonfires once, so that you´ll get 10 Estus instead of 5. Later you can go up to 20. Each kindling takes 1 Humanity off the counter.

[Imskiller99]

You get humanity from item drops, pre set items (IE like a hollow undead that is "dead" in the corner), online Coop, invasions, or off the humanity kill system. (that is s a name for that but I forget what it is called, but it is like you kill an enemy in X area and you get X amount of points. Once you reach X amount of points total you get a humanity. I belive you can get 5???? humanity per area if you keep kill enemys there)

You must spend one "chest humanity" to become human and one to kindle. If you die you lose you human form and become hollow, but you still get you 10 estus.

Once you get the rite of kinding, (not going to say where it is for spoiler reasons) you can kindle 2 more times. So you new options will be,

Bonfire lvl 1 (non firekeeper bonfire) = 5 flask
Bonfire lvl 2 (fire keeper or 1 kindle) = 10 flash
*Requires rite of kinding*
Bonfire lvl 3 (fire keeper bonfire kindled once, or a regular bonfire kindled 2 times) = 15 flask
Bonfire lvl 4 (same as before just add one, this is the max level of a bonfire) = 20 flask

Once you have kindled said bonfire X amount of times, that bonfire will give you the amount of flash accoding to level of bonfire. There is no way it can lose a level and will stay like that even if you beat the game and go into a higher NG cycle.

Hope that helped

[Mad Marduk]

Sweet. Thank you, that really did help! I think i'll just go human, kindle, and then let myself be killed in an easy encounter so I can go ahead and recover my stuff and be able to heal again.