Stuck inside gravelord nitos boss room

[Flowernose]

There is a fire and i can warp out but isnt it possible to have lit that bonfire before you get the ability to teleport out?
I dont want to miss anything like a shortcut to the best non dlc humanity farm

[Groen90]

You mean you defeated Nito? You can't fight Nito in the first place if you don't place the Lordvessel, and acquiring that means gaining the ability to warp between bonfires... so there's no way to get stuck down there.

[Flowernose]

Originally posted by Groen90:

You mean you defeated Nito? You can't fight Nito in the first place if you don't place the Lordvessel, and acquiring that means gaining the ability to warp between bonfires... so there's no way to get stuck down there.

Ok i thought you could fight him without the lordvessel
Just wondering what happends if you try to fight him anyways? Will it not let you pass fog gates or something? Will he not take any damage?

[Groen90]

There's a golden fog gate blocking the way after the second bonfire in the tombs of giants, you can only remove it by placing the lordvessel. There are 2 more golden fog gates, one in anor londo and one before lost izalith, and the guy in new londo (where the ghosts are) will only give you the key to the seal if you have the lordvessel.
So that's the key to progress in the game, no way around it...

[MobiusPizza]

also, you can kill the guy in new londo to get the key before you place the lordvessel

[pcdeltalink]

Originally posted by Groen90:

There's a golden fog gate blocking the way after the second bonfire in the tombs of giants, you can only remove it by placing the lordvessel. There are 2 more golden fog gates, one in anor londo and one before lost izalith, and the guy in new londo (where the ghosts are) will only give you the key to the seal if you have the lordvessel.
So that's the key to progress in the game, no way around it...

It's worth noting here that you can get the Key to the Seal as soon as you have access to New Londo Ruins by killing the guy that has the key. You can even do it with a basic bow and arrow from the nearby walkways and avoid going through the house full of ghosts to fight him. Key is directly placed in your inventory after he dies.

While you can't fight the Four Kings and live without the Covenant of Artorias ring you do get access to the Dark Wraiths which you can farm for Titanite Chunks and Slabs and the Very Large Ember is also in there for ascending gear to +15. Very worthwhile to get access to that area ASAP. Just gotta be very very careful (being 2 shotted by a Dark Wraith reminded me I wasn't supposed to be there yet, hehe.)

[Fashionbeast]

^^ Yes, but doing "New Londo" early is intended to give you access to special goodies or even can change to the game's plot resolution. (The very loose plo tof DS.)

[pcdeltalink]

Originally posted by Smugbeast:

^^ Yes, but doing "New Londo" early is intended to give you access to special goodies or even can change to the game's plot resolution. (The very loose plo tof DS.)

I'm not the best at Dark Souls (stuck on Kalameet on 360 and only just beat O & S on here) and I don't know every detail about the game so may I ask what it changes? I wasn't aware that killing that guy had any effect on your two ending choices.

[Groen90]

Originally posted by pcdeltalink:

Originally posted by Smugbeast:

^^ Yes, but doing "New Londo" early is intended to give you access to special goodies or even can change to the game's plot resolution. (The very loose plo tof DS.)

I'm not the best at Dark Souls (stuck on Kalameet on 360 and only just beat O & S on here) and I don't know every detail about the game so may I ask what it changes? I wasn't aware that killing that guy had any effect on your two ending choices.

Well if you beat 4 kings without ever talking to Frampt at Firelink, another primordial serpent will appear, telling you... a somewhat different version of the story. Nothing of what you'll need to do actually changes though.
At the end you can choose the ending regardless of what serpent you speak to.

[Fashionbeast]

It changes nothing, really. I it introduces you to the possibility, that you don't have to rekindle the fire and instead herald an "Age of Dark".

If you fight the four kings without placing it with "Kingseeker Frampt", another primordial serpent shows up, "Darkstalker Kaathe". He tells you that Frampt's agenda is all hogwash and you shoudn't link the fire. Then you can choose him as your guardian and place the Lordvessel with him. Exit: Frampt

Kaathe gives also access to the "Darkwraith" covenant (Red Orbs, Unique weapon and armor)

[pcdeltalink]

Originally posted by Groen90:

Originally posted by pcdeltalink:

I'm not the best at Dark Souls (stuck on Kalameet on 360 and only just beat O & S on here) and I don't know every detail about the game so may I ask what it changes? I wasn't aware that killing that guy had any effect on your two ending choices.

Well if you beat 4 kings without ever talking to Frampt at Firelink, another primordial serpent will appear, telling you... a somewhat different version of the story. Nothing of what you'll need to do actually changes though.
At the end you can choose the ending regardless of what serpent you speak to.

Oh no worries there. I plan to not talk to anyone so I can get that covenant achievement from the other one there in the abyss. Besides I hate the Four Kings and had a ton of trouble with them on the 360. I am not in a rush to go back in there and fight them. Gonna be awhile anyway cause I want to do the DLC first this time before Sif so I can get his alternate intro cutscene.

[Hexagon]

Originally posted by pcdeltalink:

Oh no worries there. I plan to not talk to anyone so I can get that covenant achievement from the other one there in the abyss. Besides I hate the Four Kings and had a ton of trouble with them on the 360. I am not in a rush to go back in there and fight them. Gonna be awhile anyway cause I want to do the DLC first this time before Sif so I can get his alternate intro cutscene.

Prepare to cry ;-;

[Fashionbeast]

Just remember: "Kill the dogs first."
All dogs

[AnKalameet]

You can't get the alternate cutscene without losing access to Kaathe and missing the covenant. Choose one.