DARK SOULS™: Prepare To Die Edition

DARK SOULS™: Prepare To Die Edition

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MatchaYuTian 30 października 2015 o 16:34
Another Dark detail I found
All the twin humanity corpses are female....
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Lunch Loot 30 października 2015 o 19:59 
I wouldn't say that every female is pregnant but I think that the twin humanities rather signifies the potential for more life.
MatchaYuTian 30 października 2015 o 20:00 
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Edit: Oh I see, you troll people. GG
If you think I'm really trolling you, you're deeply mistaken. I'm just not telling you how horrible you sound right now with your flawed theory and broken logic.

My original point was the unique fact that all the corpses that hold twin humanity are female. The theory of them being possibly pregnant is simply a theory. You don't have to agree with it, it's just my speculation. There's bound to be flawed logic and theories because of how open-ended and vague the lore and world is.
notFore 30 października 2015 o 20:32 
1. You get twin humanities from Quelaag and that Pharis wannabe Forest Hunter. Now I haven't seen ENB's video but if he mentions that twin humanities somehow signify the relationship between two different individuals (i.e Quelaag and the Fair Lady, Pharis wannabe and the actual Pharis) then that's a more convincing theory than straight up "they're pregnant" becuz "the corpses were femelzz". Besides if every corpse with twin humanities turned out to be females, then it could just be simply related to them being female, not pregnancy.

2. You bring up the: "oh lol its just a theory" or "oh lol Dark Souls is vague so I might be right" argument when people object about your "theory". If you know how debates or even petty arguments go that's pretty much a sign that you have nothing else to support your pregger theory.

Example:
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This was discussed in some of ENB's videos that he did lately, I don't think it means those were pregnant females, the fire keepers have tons of humanity under their skin yet they're not pregnant.
We all carry lots of humanity with us and we're not pregnant, lol.

As always, the beauty of Dark souls world and lore is how vague it is. There are so many different rational explanation, none of them are 100% true, yet they all contain a hint of truth within them.

3. Rats and basilisks don't "drop" soft humanity but that doesn't mean the Cragspider is pregnant.

Which I think was just my misunderstanding if you simply meant that they used to be human. I'll take that back.
MatchaYuTian 30 października 2015 o 21:03 
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1. You get twin humanities from Quelaag and that Pharis wannabe Forest Hunter. Now I haven't seen ENB's video but if he mentions that twin humanities somehow signify the relationship between two different individuals (i.e Quelaag and the Fair Lady, Pharis wannabe and the actual Pharis) then that's a more convincing theory than straight up "they're pregnant" becuz "the corpses were femelzz". Besides if every corpse with twin humanities turned out to be females, then it could just be simply related to them being female, not pregnancy.

2. You bring up the: "oh lol its just a theory" or "oh lol Dark Souls is vague so I might be right" argument when people object about your "theory". If you know how debates or even petty arguments go that's pretty much a sign that you have nothing else to support your pregger theory.

Example:
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As always, the beauty of Dark souls world and lore is how vague it is. There are so many different rational explanation, none of them are 100% true, yet they all contain a hint of truth within them.

3. Rats and basilisks don't "drop" soft humanity but that doesn't mean the Cragspider is pregnant.

Which I think was just my misunderstanding if you simply meant that they used to be human. I'll take that back.

You make some really good points, I wasn't giving a lot of detailed reasons as to why I had my theories. Regarding the cragspider, what I meant was that they used to be human but then got mutated due to the swamp which is the reason for them giving soft humanities whilst the quelaag is alive.

You know, You're alright. Thank you for taking your time and explaining your behalf. Really appreciate it.:mllrmask:
Fullmetal 30 października 2015 o 21:11 
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1. You get twin humanities from Quelaag and that Pharis wannabe Forest Hunter. Now I haven't seen ENB's video but if he mentions that twin humanities somehow signify the relationship between two different individuals (i.e Quelaag and the Fair Lady, Pharis wannabe and the actual Pharis) then that's a more convincing theory than straight up "they're pregnant" becuz "the corpses were femelzz". Besides if every corpse with twin humanities turned out to be females, then it could just be simply related to them being female, not pregnancy.


Not saying it is true, but if, as you said, the twin signifies relation between two individuals, why couldn't it be between a mother and her unborn child?
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notFore 30 października 2015 o 21:22 
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Not saying it is true, but if, as you said, the twin signifies relation between two individuals, why couldn't it be between a mother and her unborn child?
They both have to have a strong relationship with each other is the only logical argument. A baby, especially an unborn one has no real conscious to who gave birth to him/her.

But again Ciaran doesn't drop twin humanities, nor does Artorias. Whether that means Artorias didn't have real feelings for Ciaran or the theory I brought up is flawed depends with further evidence.
Fullmetal 30 października 2015 o 21:23 
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Not saying it is true, but if, as you said, the twin signifies relation between two individuals, why couldn't it be between a mother and her unborn child?
They both have to have a strong relationship with each other is the only logical argument. A baby, especially an unborn one has no real conscious to who gave birth to them.

But again Ciaran doesn't drop twin humanities, nor does Artorias. Whether that means Artorias didn't have real feelings for Ciaran or the theory I brought up is flawed depends with further evidence.

Hmm, I'm not sure about that. Although he isn't really "conscious", the link with the mother is the strongest (and, during pregnancy, actually the only one) he has. And the bond by the mother to the child needs no comment. Not to mention the humanity is something even beyond the soul, the link might be different than just that "conscious emotional link".
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Fullmetal; 30 października 2015 o 21:25
Fullmetal 30 października 2015 o 21:26 
I know my last part sounds like it's contradicting the first one, but the link between a mother and a baby may be beyond the emotional level.
notFore 30 października 2015 o 21:32 
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Not to mention the humanity is something even beyond the soul, the link might be different than just that "conscious emotional link".
Or it could be because of gender.

Not saying it's true either. Just has less logical loopholes than, "everyone is preggerz".
notFore 30 października 2015 o 21:42 
You could try abducting a newly born child to see if there's something beyond "conscious emotional link". Chances are that the child will grow up without any difference if the environment were to be exactly as if he was being grown by his actual parents.
Fullmetal 30 października 2015 o 21:46 
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Not to mention the humanity is something even beyond the soul, the link might be different than just that "conscious emotional link".
Or it could be because of gender.

Not saying it's true either. Just has less logical loopholes than, "everyone is preggerz".

Maybe. But then oswald also drops twin humanities, so it isn't something linked necessarily to the gender. However, the developers made the choice of putting all the looted from corpses twin humanities in women, instead of choosing a man here and there. Of course it also could be nothing.


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You could try abducting a newly born child to see if there's something beyond "conscious emotional link". Chances are that the child will grow up without any difference if the environment were to be exactly as if he was being grown by his actual parents.


When I said that i meant something that could have a meaning inside dark souls universe, not ours. In our universe we also don't have undeads that collect souls (or don't even can prove the existence of a soul), or "humanities" for that matter.
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Fullmetal; 30 października 2015 o 21:47
Fullmetal 30 października 2015 o 21:49 
Which, in any case, considering the relationship theory, makes me wonder: what could oswald be linked to? (and again, about the theory, the black set says that "Their masks symbolize separation from worldy desires", that would mean oswald wasn't truly separated? or that it really isn't feelings?)
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Fullmetal; 30 października 2015 o 21:51
notFore 30 października 2015 o 22:11 
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When I said that i meant something that could have a meaning inside dark souls universe, not ours. In our universe we also don't have undeads that collect souls (or don't even can prove the existence of a soul), or "humanities" for that matter.
So a theory-ception then? I get what you're trying to say but the more you delve into fantasy the less you're going to make sense.

It could always just mean "more of something" since having multiple humanities doesn't equate to two lives.

Also Oswald could be a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ LOL.
Fullmetal 30 października 2015 o 22:18 
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When I said that i meant something that could have a meaning inside dark souls universe, not ours. In our universe we also don't have undeads that collect souls (or don't even can prove the existence of a soul), or "humanities" for that matter.
So a theory-ception then? I get what you're trying to say but the more you delve into fantasy the less you're going to make sense.


I don't think i meant exactly a theory-ception, more that could be another explanation inside the universe. It's true that I don't make sense, but not exactly because I delve into fantasy (we all have to delve into fantasy to make any theory about this game), more like because I really don't have anything concrete and didn't develop the theory to fill all the gaps.

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It could always just mean "more of something" since having multiple humanities doesn't equate to two lives.

Yes, it could just mean "more of something". But then again, if they just wanted to put "more humanities" they could put 2 humanities instead of creating a twin humanities, like they do in other drops.

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Also Oswald could be a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ LOL.

EHUIEHIUHE maybe, don't think so though
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Fullmetal; 30 października 2015 o 22:19
notFore 30 października 2015 o 22:47 
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Yes, it could just mean "more of something". But then again, if they just wanted to put "more humanities" they could put 2 humanities instead of creating a twin humanities, like they do in other drops.
Ohh nice point, but I feel that its more of a game design standpoint rather than having something deep behind it now that you've said that.

Even though twin humanities are a seperate item than a single humanity, the sprite for the item literally is just two, single humanities. And by adding another humanity item, you have a lot more storage to fill up with a total of 594 potential soft humanities availabe as opposed to the 198 available from just having 99 single humanities both in the bottomless box and your inventory.

What do you know, the whole placing twin humanities specifically on female bodies, NPC's, and bosses could just be another one of From's trolling. Just like how the blank pendant served almost zero purpose to the entire game.

Could be an interesting discussion though, since DS2 has females like Nashandra but lots of people consider the entire game to be non-canon so I guess we'll see what From does with DS3.
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