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Sir Weebsalot Dec 12, 2015 @ 11:59am
Greatsword of Artorias (Cursed) or Black Knight Greatsword
I was wondering which one you guys use late game. I've noticed the Greatsword of Artorias does 250 physical damage at +5 while my BKG does 350 +5. Is the BKG just objectively better?
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Groen90 (Banned) Dec 12, 2015 @ 12:02pm 
Depends on your stats and enemy's defenses, both are good at endgame.
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Sir Weebsalot Dec 12, 2015 @ 12:04pm 
Originally posted by Groen90:
Depends on your stats and enemy's defenses, both are good at endgame.
What does the GoA do that's better than the BKG? Looking at the raw stats, I can't see any difference but the damage.
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Snowbot Dec 12, 2015 @ 12:05pm 
I think the Black Knight sword is better all together because its scaling is really high for strength and it does an outstanding amount of damage, the move set (in my oppinion) is better but the sad thing is, it swings much slower than the Artorias Greatsword.
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Groen90 (Banned) Dec 12, 2015 @ 12:09pm 
Originally posted by Morsamer:
Originally posted by Groen90:
Depends on your stats and enemy's defenses, both are good at endgame.
What does the GoA do that's better than the BKG? Looking at the raw stats, I can't see any difference but the damage.
Again, depends on your stats... they scale differently, with different stats...
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Ryu Fireheart Dec 12, 2015 @ 12:12pm 
Originally posted by Morsamer:
I was wondering which one you guys use late game. I've noticed the Greatsword of Artorias does 250 physical damage at +5 while my BKG does 350 +5. Is the BKG just objectively better?

Neither, i use a zweihander since i got it in beggining until now SL246 (NG6)
Last edited by Ryu Fireheart; Dec 12, 2015 @ 12:14pm
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Sir Weebsalot Dec 12, 2015 @ 12:58pm 
Originally posted by Groen90:
Originally posted by Morsamer:
What does the GoA do that's better than the BKG? Looking at the raw stats, I can't see any difference but the damage.
Again, depends on your stats... they scale differently, with different stats...
It says their scaling is both C rank. Doesn't that mean their scaling is the same?
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AnKalameet Dec 12, 2015 @ 1:04pm 
The BKGS does not scale to C with any stat when fully upgraded, so before you even have this conversation, upgrade it fully.
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Groen90 (Banned) Dec 12, 2015 @ 1:34pm 
Originally posted by Morsamer:
Originally posted by Groen90:
Again, depends on your stats... they scale differently, with different stats...
It says their scaling is both C rank. Doesn't that mean their scaling is the same?
uuhh what? BKG has B in STR and E in DEX... maybe you mean the Black Knight Sword, that one has C in STR and E in DEX, but then again the cursed greatsword has C scaling in all 4 STR, DEX, INT and FTH.
What this means is that the BK weapons will give more bonus damage from a character with very high STR, a specialized STR build; while the cursed sword will shine while in the hands of a very balanced all-around, high level character, with all 4 STR, DEX, INT and FTH at least at 20 and more.

Also if 2 weapons have the same letter in their scaling, it doesn't mean it's exactly the same, it can be slightly different.
Last edited by Groen90; Dec 12, 2015 @ 1:35pm
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Sir Weebsalot Dec 12, 2015 @ 2:16pm 
Originally posted by AnKalameet:
The BKGS does not scale to C with any stat when fully upgraded, so before you even have this conversation, upgrade it fully.
I didn't realize that there was a black knight sword and a black knight greatsword. I was refering to the black knight sword
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Fashionbeast Dec 12, 2015 @ 2:34pm 
Remember the black knight on the tower right after the closed gate to the sunlight altar bonfire?
He wields a "Black Knight Greatsword"

Main problem with Artorias' Swagswords is that they require stats all over the board and deal split damage. For their investment they kind of disappoint for damage.

Both the black knight weapons and the Artorias swords have the "ridicilous, but fun" heavy attacks. Both can be fun to use.
Last edited by Fashionbeast; Dec 12, 2015 @ 3:55pm
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SimoneWeilFan420 Dec 12, 2015 @ 3:40pm 
Originally posted by Fashionbeast:

Main problem with Artorias' Swagswords is that they require stats all over the board and deal split damage. For their investment they kind of disappoint for damage.

Cursed and Abyss GS are pure phys - Abyss only scales w str and dex, cursed ... still scales w int and faith (C/C) though it has no magic damage, which is weird. Might be all-round better than the "true" one if that's true, though the build required is kinda absurd unless you're not capping at all

though quickly looking on mugen even with 40/40/40/40 it only has an AR of 439, but that doesn't change if I change int or faith, so maybe mugen is wrong and not accounting for the supposed C scaling in int and faith? Can anyone verify that?


Also BKGS is great, the gimmick r2s are stupid but great fun
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