I just ragequit Demon's Souls

[K4ever]

Beating Dark Souls by myself without the help of anybody felt very satisfying, and now with that experience I wanted to beat Demon's Souls for the ps3. Everything was going good until I reach a point where if I die against a boss I have to backtrack all the way up to the bossfight. Dark Souls was more forgiving here. In DS if you died on a boss you would respawn almost right next to its fog gate because of a fireplace, and worst case scenario you would have to backtrack a lil bit BUT WITHOUT ENGAGING IN FIGHTS. Since you already know where the enemies are in a given path, you could just avoid them and run directly to the fog gate ... but not on Demon's souls. Not only you backtrack like a motherrocker, but HAVE TO ENGAGE AND KILL MORE THAN HALF OF THE ENEMIES AGAIN. And when I finally Reach the boss and start fighting it, since Im still learning the patterns, chances of me dying after a few seconds are very high ... and then this process of backtracking again with enemies repeat ad nauseum.

I know this game was the original hardcore first person action adventure of its time, but now I know how From Software tweaked and improved the formula in Dark Souls and so forth.
If I was 16 years old with no responsibilities, and with plenty of time to spare, sure I would waste precious hours of my life backtracking and doing the same thing over and over again ... but now I just cant do that. I wanted to beat that game, in order to be one more step closer to finishing almost all the good games for the ps3 before I move to a new console, but this fuc*king game beat me. Its my first game EVER that make me ragequit and leave me with a complete sense of failure.

Fuc*k you Demon's Souls. Definitely not rated E for everyone.

[Facu]

Go back and ♥♥♥♥ him. You can do it...just take some breaks between fights.

[K4ever]

Originally posted by Facu:

Go back and ♥♥♥♥ him. You can do it...just take some breaks between fights.

Nah, I just wasted the whole fuc*king morning (around 4 hours) without advancing at all in the game. Just kept dying over and over against Maneaters, and dying because of me trying to backtrack fast to other boss fights. Not worth it.

[Sweet Tooth]

Yeah, I remember Demons Souls, best FPAA game of all time.

S'called an Action RPG mane

[Wulf]

Maneaters?

You're using the maneaters as an example of a bad run?

Pfft, you can run past every enemy there.

The BP facehumper is a bit risky to run past but easily do-able.

Man up, Nancy.

[K4ever]

Originally posted by Wulf:

Maneaters?

You're using the maneaters as an example of a bad run?

Pfft, you can run past every enemy there.

The BP facehumper is a bit risky to run past but easily do-able.

Man up, Nancy.

Here come the souls trolls that dont know how to read.

" Just kept dying over and over against Maneaters, and because of me trying to backtrack fast to OTHER BOSS fights"

Its super easy to go to fight the maneaters but a bit*ch to beat them especially at level 30 and without magic or weapon buffs. The backtracking I was referring to was the one in the world where these reptile creatures exist, and the first boss is a giant leech thing. The other one is in the lava world (2-2) where I just have to kill one of the giant fire bugs no matter what, since its blocking my way towards the boss, and to do that is easy but tedious and time consuming. For the first boss in the skeleton world, I just have to go ALL AROUND the map just to get the fog gate and I cant evade the skeleton rolling attacks ... just have to kill them ... again wasting time.

Your trolling = 1/10.

[Wulf]

Not only you backtrack like a motherrocker, but HAVE TO ENGAGE AND KILL MORE THAN HALF OF THE ENEMIES AGAIN. And when I finally Reach the boss and start fighting it, since Im still learning the patterns, chances of me dying after a few seconds are very high ... and then this process of backtracking again with enemies repeat ad nauseum.

Sorry, I was responding to the words you said instead of the words in your head.

Carry on.

[K4ever]

Like other people have said, this game design was done intentionally to make the player feel like the game takes many hours to beat when if it wasnt for purposefully tedious backtracking one could beat the game way sooner. Or one is forced to grind the shi*t out to level up themselves plus their weapons in order to kill enemies in one slash while backtracking.

Again, its really cool that the devs got the hint and released dark souls which is demon souls for the hardcore MASSES, instead of continuing the previous formula that was solely intended for the hardcore ELITISTS.

Damn I really wanted to beat this game ....

[Jennifer]

Demon's Souls is my favourite in the series. I'd love if it came to PC.
I found the atmosphere, visual design, sound design, setting, etc. of Demon's to be much better than that of Dark, although Dark is still pretty darn good. That being said, I do prefer how your character moves and attacks with a much more weighted feel, and the way the entire world is connected seamlessly.

Which boss was it that you had trouble with? I beat Demon's Souls having killed Leechmonger, Dirty Colossus, Dragon God, Garl Vinland/Maiden Astraea, Maneaters, Flamelurker, Old Hero, Adjudicator, and Penetrator all on my first go solo. The only bosses that really irked me were Tower Knight (because he's intimidating), and Old King Allant.

[K4ever]

Originally posted by ♡Jennifer♡:

Demon's Souls is my favourite in the series. I'd love if it came to PC.
I found the atmosphere, visual design, sound design, setting, etc. of Demon's to be much better than that of Dark, although Dark is still pretty darn good. That being said, I do prefer how your character moves and attacks with a much more weighted feel, and the way the entire world is connected seamlessly.

Which boss was it that you had trouble with? I beat Demon's Souls having killed Leechmonger, Dirty Colossus, Dragon God, Garl Vinland/Maiden Astraea, Maneaters, Flamelurker, Old Hero, Adjudicator, and Penetrator all on my first go solo. The only bosses that really irked me were Tower Knight (because he's intimidating), and Old King Allant.

So you killed the Maneaters on your first go ...

What was your soul level, and which weapons/armor/miracles/sorceries/items were you using? Did you check the wiki beforehand a big boss battle? Did you use the fog gate arrow exploit to kill the first maneater?

[Jennifer]

Originally posted by K4:

Originally posted by ♡Jennifer♡:

Demon's Souls is my favourite in the series. I'd love if it came to PC.
I found the atmosphere, visual design, sound design, setting, etc. of Demon's to be much better than that of Dark, although Dark is still pretty darn good. That being said, I do prefer how your character moves and attacks with a much more weighted feel, and the way the entire world is connected seamlessly.

Which boss was it that you had trouble with? I beat Demon's Souls having killed Leechmonger, Dirty Colossus, Dragon God, Garl Vinland/Maiden Astraea, Maneaters, Flamelurker, Old Hero, Adjudicator, and Penetrator all on my first go solo. The only bosses that really irked me were Tower Knight (because he's intimidating), and Old King Allant.

So you killed the Maneaters on your first go ...

What was your soul level, and which weapons/armor/miracles/sorceries/items were you using? Did you check the wiki beforehand a big boss battle? Did you use the fog gate arrow exploit to kill the first maneater?

I don't recall my exact soul level and armour/weapon levels, but I at least know I had a scimitar and, I think, the armour you get on start as one of the female knights. Either that, or that hefty Tower Knight armour you can find on the first level. I finished the game at, I think, between Soul Level 60 to 80. I didn't use the fog gate arrow exploit, no.

[Menerva]

I killed 'em first go as well, SL63 or so with a bastard sword, no arrow exploit/googleing. Just stay hyper aggressive and heal when you need to, if 2 of them are on the field at once you've done it wrong. What's your build OP?

[crylol]

Originally posted by K4:

The other one is in the lava world (2-2) where I just have to kill one of the giant fire bugs no matter what, since its blocking my way towards the boss, and to do that is easy but tedious and time consuming.

But in 2-2 you can just go right at the beginning and skip the whole level.
Backtracking 4-1 and 5-1 shouldn't be too bad either, because those bosses are not that hard at all and you will most likely get them in a couple of tries.
My first playthrough of des was a bit tough because I screwed up my build pretty bad. After that it was a breeze and I even got platinum. :P

[K4ever]

Originally posted by More Like Win-More:

I killed 'em first go as well, SL63 or so with a bastard sword, no arrow exploit/googleing. Just stay hyper aggressive and heal when you need to, if 2 of them are on the field at once you've done it wrong. What's your build OP?

My SL is 30, with a bastard sword and thief armor set. I had to mildly grind in order to get a sorcery that will let me infuse magic to my weapon in order to do a lil bit more damage. My INT and Faith are around 13.

I know Im somehow underleveled to deal with the maneaters, but I dont mind that. Is the backtracking that kills me in the other worlds (against flamelurker, leechmonger, adjudicator). I still havent faced Adjudicator because when I reach the fog gate I returned to the Nexus fo fear of losing my souls at that point. Now I have to backtrack and kill all the skeletons that roll towards me, and some of the ones carrying big long swords. The path towards Flamelurker is the same, but what I hate is that I lose time killing one of the giant shelled bugs that is blocking my way. It takes forever to kill it. And what I completely despise is to start from the beginning in the level towards Leechmonger. I have to kill almost everyone again, since the paths are narrow and all the enemies are blocking your way. I know about shortcuts I can take, but they still will take around 5 minutes. 5 minutes of wasted backtracking over and over again at best.

Thats why I loved Dark Souls. I spent at least 3 hours straight dying around 20 times against Ornstein and Smourgh, but had a blast everytime. I would just respawn in the closest bonfire, and it wouoldnt take me more than 1 minute to get back to face them. The reason why I kept fighting the Maneaters was because they were the only bosses faster to reach after a respawn, even if it means fighting them underleveled and underequipped.

[K4ever]

Originally posted by crylol:

Originally posted by K4:

The other one is in the lava world (2-2) where I just have to kill one of the giant fire bugs no matter what, since its blocking my way towards the boss, and to do that is easy but tedious and time consuming.

But in 2-2 you can just go right at the beginning and skip the whole level.
Backtracking 4-1 and 5-1 shouldn't be too bad either, because those bosses are not that hard at all and you will most likely get them in a couple of tries.
My first playthrough of des was a bit tough because I screwed up my build pretty bad. After that it was a breeze and I even got platinum. :P

Fuc*king Leechmonger killed me 2 times already. If I get engulfed with leeches its gameover for me since I dont know how to take them off me. I refuse to check a guide online that will tell me how to do this (if it is actually possible by the way), because that will be cheating in my books. The only option I can get is grind a lot of souls in order to buy a LOT of herbs, then face them and hopefully my health will last enough for me to figure out their patterns.

[Jennifer]

Originally posted by K4:

Originally posted by crylol:

But in 2-2 you can just go right at the beginning and skip the whole level.
Backtracking 4-1 and 5-1 shouldn't be too bad either, because those bosses are not that hard at all and you will most likely get them in a couple of tries.
My first playthrough of des was a bit tough because I screwed up my build pretty bad. After that it was a breeze and I even got platinum. :P

Fuc*king Leechmonger killed me 2 times already. If I get engulfed with leeches its gameover for me since I dont know how to take them off me. I refuse to check a guide online that will tell me how to do this (if it is actually possible by the way), because that will be cheating in my books. The only option I can get is grind a lot of souls in order to buy a LOT of herbs, then face them and hopefully my health will last enough for me to figure out their patterns.

If I recall correctly, you can just stand atop the spiral walkway in Leechmonger's room and pick it off from up there.

As far as the Shrine of Storms goes, those skeletons are pretty easy to fight. Just block while they're rolling at you, swipe at them, and block. They're as basic as can be, aside from the mindless slaves and knights of the Boletaria bits. If you move to their side or behind them, then you've also pretty much got them trapped. Take each one at a time. The one firing arrows at you near the base of the stairs can be killed before agro'ing the lone skelly below the two archers.