Pumping Dex for cast speed

[XenoEvil]

Is it worth pumping points into dex to increase casting speed? The difference seems so miniscule that I dont know if it even helps at all.

[nomoreblues]

imho it's worth only if u profit from dex in other ways, too - or if u don't care about sl

[Shazbot!]

Originally posted by XenoEvil:

casting speed

What are you going to cast in first place?

[Bonkers]

It's worth it for pyros, but not so much for sorcerers.

[Bullett00th]

Didn't know that DEX affects casting speed.

Does it affect magic and miracles or pyromancies as well?

[Bonkers]

Originally posted by The Dark Lord:

Originally posted by Mr. Onion:

It's worth it for pyros, but not so much for sorcerers.

pyro? op going spam great cumbustion?

Well, Black Flames and Great Chaos Fireballs with 45 dex are pretty neat.

[Bonkers]

Originally posted by Bullett00th:

Didn't know that DEX affects casting speed.

Does it affect magic and miracles or pyromancies as well?

It affects quite a lot pyros/sorceries/miracles.

The most notable miracle affected are probably the different lightning spears.

[Bonkers]

Originally posted by The Dark Lord:

Originally posted by Mr. Onion:

Well, Black Flames and Great Chaos Fireballs with 45 dex are pretty neat.

Huh, I never knew that. Guess I gotta try a new build out.

There are a few comparison videos. The difference between 30 and 45 dex is quite impressive.

[Bullett00th]

Originally posted by Mr. Onion:

Originally posted by Bullett00th:

Didn't know that DEX affects casting speed.

Does it affect magic and miracles or pyromancies as well?

It affects quite a lot pyros/sorceries/miracles.

The most notable miracle affected are probably the different lightning spears.

So going for a STR build on my Pyro was a mistake? :(

[Bonkers]

Originally posted by Bullett00th:

Originally posted by Mr. Onion:

It affects quite a lot pyros/sorceries/miracles.

The most notable miracle affected are probably the different lightning spears.

So going for a STR build on my Pyro was a mistake? :(

Not really, the combustion attacks are still really good and pyro only needs a few points in attunement.

[Bullett00th]

Originally posted by Mr. Onion:

Originally posted by Bullett00th:

So going for a STR build on my Pyro was a mistake? :(

Not really, the combustion attacks are still really good and pyro only needs a few points in attunement.

but would I benefit from investing a certain amount into DEX? and how many?

[Bonkers]

Originally posted by Bullett00th:

Originally posted by Mr. Onion:

Not really, the combustion attacks are still really good and pyro only needs a few points in attunement.

but would I benefit from investing a certain amount into DEX? and how many?

Cast speed is increased between 30 and 45 dex. You can look up an comparison video.

[Zecilus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHfPcu_B0nQ

The slower the spell, the more the higher DEX will benefit from it. Including pillar type pyromancy spells like Fire Tempest. It could mean the difference between the opponent getting a backstab in before the spell is cast.

Another spell that gains a pretty big upgrade is Emit Force. Some opponents expect it to come out slower than what it really does and come in for a back stab. Aim the spell towards the ground (rather than directly at them) to beneift from the AOE dead angle damage from the impact.

Combustion type Pyromancy spells, Dark Bead and Wrath of the Gods, that are generally already quick spells are now that much more quicker and when paired with a Dark Wood Grain ring, which damn near nullifies all recovery animation, you can flip out the way (or past) opponents who can time your spells and off target roll in for a back stab.

Bear in mind, an opponent that's observant and quick on their feet will see you with a pyromancy hand or catalyst/ talisman and can react pretty well to even 45 DEX casting animations and come towards you in a roll.

[donttrustidiot]

Originally posted by Bullett00th:

So going for a STR build on my Pyro was a mistake? :(

Not it wasnt... goal is same
-> making pyros's unpredictable.
Even if I dont agree with fireballs.... (enemy has enought time to raise black kn. shield, but combustion can catch him off guard)

Originally posted by XenoEvil:

Is it worth pumping points into dex to increase casting speed?

Build to make kills? - Then yea.
Build to experiment with weapons and armor sets - Then no.

[Bullett00th]

Originally posted by donttrustidiot:

Originally posted by Bullett00th:

So going for a STR build on my Pyro was a mistake? :(

-> making pyros's unpredictable.

I'm not looking at PVP, at least not right now.
I want to marathon Souls games and in PVE I don't imagine mobs reading into my actions too much

[XenoEvil]

Originally posted by Shazbot!:

Originally posted by XenoEvil:

casting speed

What are you going to cast in first place?

Its going to be mostly crystal soul mass and crystal soul spears.

Originally posted by Zecilus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHfPcu_B0nQ

The slower the spell, the more the higher DEX will benefit from it. Including pillar type pyromancy spells like Fire Tempest. It could mean the difference between the opponent getting a backstab in before the spell is cast.

Another spell that gains a pretty big upgrade is Emit Force. Some opponents expect it to come out slower than what it really does and come in for a back stab. Aim the spell towards the ground (rather than directly at them) to beneift from the AOE dead angle damage from the impact.

Combustion type Pyromancy spells, Dark Bead and Wrath of the Gods, that are generally already quick spells are now that much more quicker and when paired with a Dark Wood Grain ring, which damn near nullifies all recovery animation, you can flip out the way (or past) opponents who can time your spells and off target roll in for a back stab.

Bear in mind, an opponent that's observant and quick on their feet will see you with a pyromancy hand or catalyst/ talisman and can react pretty well to even 45 DEX casting animations and come towards you in a roll.

So cast speed is only useful for a pvp build? A few frams of advantage seem hardly benefitial to helping you beat tough bosses to me.