What is the best catalyst for casting dark sorceries without halving casts?

[N00b45454]

After making a spell-only sorcerer build, I finally understood why people consider dark sorceries as game breaking for PvE. And as such I'm curious as to which catalyst is the best option for using dark sorceries since the damage of the spells are increases with the physical scaling of the catalyst (ie. Dex and Strength). I know that the manus catalyst is pretty much meant for dark sorceries but with the spell casts being halved, I'm wondering what other catalysts are good for dark sorceries.

So far I've read the wiki about different catalysts and the other two options are the tin banishment catalyst (Dex) and the demon's catalyst (Str), but has anyone tried using both and have seen the differences in dmg?

The stats on my character so far:
SL 96
Vit: 15
Att: 34
End: 20
Str: 20
Dex: 20
Res: 8
Int: 50
Faith: 8

With both Str and Dex equal I could go either of the two catalysts but I might increase my Dex further for the small increase in casting speed (10%)

[Dens Aquilae]

Logan

[N00b45454]

Originally posted by Dens Aquilae:

Logan

That's the catalyst I'm using right now but I'm wondering if using the two mentioned catalysts will outclass logan's catalyst by increasing the dark magics' damage. Unless of course if the damage is too small to even consider switching catalysts.

[Dens Aquilae]

Those catalysts' STR/DEX scaling only increases physical (hit, like clubbing with your catalyst) dmg as far as I know.

[AnKalameet]

Originally posted by Dens Aquilae:

Those catalysts' STR/DEX scaling only increases physical (hit, like clubbing with your catalyst) dmg as far as I know.

false.

But both have significantly worse magic adjust than Logan's, meaning any increase in damage for Dark Bead/Orb/Pursuers would likely be minimal if at all.

[N00b45454]

Originally posted by Dens Aquilae:

Those catalysts' STR/DEX scaling only increases physical (hit, like clubbing with your catalyst) dmg as far as I know.

In that case I'll stick to using logan's catalyst then.

[Dens Aquilae]

Originally posted by AnKalameet:

Originally posted by Dens Aquilae:

Those catalysts' STR/DEX scaling only increases physical (hit, like clubbing with your catalyst) dmg as far as I know.

false.

But both have significantly worse magic adjust than Logan's, meaning any increase in damage for Dark Bead/Orb/Pursuers would likely be minimal if at all.

Good to know. hm.

[Selza]

"With 40 DEX and 32 INT, the Tin Banishment Catalyst will out-damage the Sorcerer's Catalyst and Logan's Catalyst, but only when casting dark sorceries." -wikidot

[N00b45454]

Originally posted by Selzauido:

"With 40 DEX and 32 INT, the Tin Banishment Catalyst will out-damage the Sorcerer's Catalyst and Logan's Catalyst, but only when casting dark sorceries." -wikidot

40 Dex and 32 INT, well I guess it doesn't matter which catalyst I'm going to use then, since my INT is 50 and Dex is 23