Best weapons for critical hit

[Dens Aquilae]

What is the order weapons from best to worst for critical hits? (Apart from crystal strength and twink weapons)
Rapier>Bandit knife>Dagger>Mail Breaker ---is this correct?
And why is it said that chaos upgrade is the best for criticals?

[undakovrist]

Mail Breaker is pretty much worthless in this game. The rest of those are accurate. Dark Silver Tracer is also pretty good, probably between Dagger and Bandit's Knife (assuming Crystal).
Chaos is good if you're using low scaling builds since the split damage isn't affected as much on criticals as it is on normal attacks. So if you're using, say, a 28/13 Havelmom you'll do more crit damage with a Chaos Dagger than a Crystal Dagger.

[Leeux]

I /think/ the Silver Tracer is the best crit rating at 160. Not sure though if there's any other weapon that comes closer by means of upgrades...

[Dens Aquilae]

Alright. Thx

[Taco Cat]

Originally posted by Leeux:

I /think/ the Silver Tracer is the best crit rating at 160. Not sure though if there's any other weapon that comes closer by means of upgrades...

I checked, you are correct.

[Leeux]

Just tested in game, Dark Silver Tracer +5 riposte vs a Silver Knight in Anor Londo, 962 damage without the Hornet Ring, 763 on backstab.

1250 riposte dmg with hornet ring, and 996 backstab... same enemy.

This is with 40 dex and 17 str.

[Taco Cat]

Originally posted by Leeux:

Just tested in game, Dark Silver Tracer +5 riposte vs a Silver Knight in Anor Londo, 962 damage without the Hornet Ring, 763 on backstab.

1250 riposte dmg with hornet ring, and 996 backstab... same enemy.

This is with 40 dex and 17 str.

It might be due to the silver tracer's low base damage

[Leeux]

yeah, it was 112 base + 141 something due to scaling, if I remember correctly. I already closed the game :/

I went again and verified :) It was 141 due to scaling

[nomoreblues]

I liked the fact that you obviously can't fully rely on wiki numbers - remember I checked while waiting for cat summon on small (b-stab-able) GL-red-shrooms with what I had on 28/40 dex-quality and +15 scythe, rapier and claymore were surprisingly close together, rapier did NOT outclass the others, 2-handing made strange differences, iirc 2-handed it even came last (or first?, gotta do it again).

maybe they have low/no armor and raper is better vs. armor

[Leeux]

Oh, right... You reminded me... as I completely forgot to say that those numbers were 1 handed riposte and backstabs :P

Now if some other charitative soul has access to a Chaos Bandit Knife or something, we can compare :P

I don't have any Chaos weapons, sadly :(

[AnKalameet]

Assuming full scaling/Crystal +4/5 for all of them, Rapier>Bandit's Knife>Dark Silver Tracer>Estoc>Ricard's Rapier>Dagger>Parrying Dagger. Velka's requires different scaling to be effective, but that's all the "crit" weapons that are worth anything; the Ghost Blade and Mail Breaker are not worth anything.