Primordial Serpant theory

[Duke]

I think that the Primordial Serpents, Frampt and Kaathe, are each a manifestation of one entity. Two sides of the same snake if you will. I think the Caduceus Round Shield[darksouls.wikidot.com], found near Frampt, is supporting evidence to this theory not only in name but also in the image it carries. The meaning of caduceus is a staff carried by the ancient Greek god, Hermes, which had two serpents twined around it.

EDIT: (better explanation)
The descriptions on both of the covetous sepent rings state that, "The serpent is an imperfect dragon and symbol of the Undead". Since Frampt and Kaathe are Primordial Serpents, it means that they are imperfect dragons. The hydras in Darkroot Basin and Ash Lake both drop dragon scales, so it is safe to assume that they are desendents of dragons. So if the hydras are related to dragons, whose to say that they arent desendants of the Primordial Serpents. And if they are desendants of the Primordial Serpents then surely the serpents should look like the hydras? I think that Frampt, Kaathe and the other Primordial Serpents are all heads of some giant hydra-like creature that dwells beneath Lordran. Any thoughts?

[Baby don't hurt me]

there are more than 2 Primordial Serpents

[Duke]

I think my theory needs some more explanation. I will edit the original post.

[Dens Aquilae]

Your theory is really cool. It would be interesting to have a giant hydra underground with high intelligence heads that have separated will and conscience.

[Ace of Wind]

A point that caught my eye was: "Since Frampt and Kaathe are Primordial Serpents, it means that they are imperfect dragons. The hydras in Darkroot Basin and Ash Lake both drop dragon scales, so it is safe to assume that they are desendents of dragons."

Which could potentially make Kaathe's intentions more clear, to bring about an age of dark, like how things used to be before the age of fire, when dragons ruled. A piece of his dialog also stood out to me, which could hint at this theory (the dialog after you place the lord vessel at the altar for him):

"Very well.
Once the vessel is filled with souls, the gate to Gwyn shall open.
Seek Gravelord Nito, the Witch of Izalith, and the traitor Seath the Scaleless."

I just always found it weird as to why he would point out that he was a traitor.

[Duke]

The one thing that doesn't work for me the the word primordial. It means, "existing at or from the beginning of time", which could suggest that the Primordial Serpents existed at the beginning of time, in which case the part about them be related to dragons could still be true but I think it makes it more unlikely. On the other hand it could just mean that they have existed for a very long time, maybe from near the beginning of time but not at it, which still could mean that they are related to to the ancient dragons.

[Duke]

As a side note, after writing the above post I looked up the definition of serpent[en.oxforddictionaries.com] and a definition for it is, "A sly or treacherous person, especially one who exploits a position of trust in order to betray it". I just thought that was interesting and wanted to share it.

[Dexter]

Originally posted by Duke:

As a side note, after writing the above post I looked up the definition of serpent[en.oxforddictionaries.com] and a definition for it is, "A sly or treacherous person, especially one who exploits a position of trust in order to betray it". I just thought that was interesting and wanted to share it.

Frampt and Kaathe use Chosen Undead for thier own purpose(correct me if I'm wrong). So this fits,
I stopped to care about lore or explenations on both Serpents as nothing suits them, in my opinion. I prefer them as they were and are, misterious creaters without any backstory.
I sometimes wonder, what other Serpents(as seen in "dark" ending) are doing and where they are. Are they plotting to use another doll to do their will in different land or just sleep somewhere?