Obsidian sword build?

[Abaddon]

I want to make a SL 120 obsidian sword build, and have a few questions to craft it fine in mugenmonkey before getting started, hope someone can answer them:

1. I thought about Obsidian greatsword + faith buffs, but it looks a bit of a waste 50 FTH just for sunlight/darkmoon blade. Is it worth spending 50 points only for the buffs?
2. I'm also wondering if the miracle upgrade ring improves buffs, does it?
3. Any ring recommendations? I thought about the miracle ring + lingering dragoncrest to enhance buffs?
4. Should I invest enough for 1-handed capabilities? Or is the 2h moveset enough?

[AnKalameet]

Get 20 strength.
Don't bother with 50 faith--30 is enough. If you need more damage you can always rollswap your talisman to a pyromancy flame.
You can't buff a buff with a ring. If it's a sorcery buff you can extend its duration with the Lingering Dragoncrest Ring. Miracle buffs can't be enhanced by any means.

[Fashionbeast]

My thoughts as a proud owner of such a build.

1)
- The sword is of course a nice piece for a 50 FTH build.
- Even with 30 FTH the OBGS with faith buff hits like a truck full of capra demons.

2)
Thank Gwyn, no ring improves damage of weapon buffs, only durations

3)
- FaP + Havel/Hornet.
- Firstborn ring mayube interesting for max. 50 FTH WotG cancer.

4)
- 20/16 are very tame STR and DEX requirements. Always full moveset for variety. People in those ranges are very able to parry your lame spams, if you don't mix it up.

- For PvP meta purposes get enough poise and fastroll.

[The Koro]

Originally posted by Fashionbeast:

My thoughts as a proud owner of such a build.

1)
- The sword is of course a nice piece for a 50 FTH build.
- Even with 30 FTH the OBGS with faith buff hits like a truck full of capra demons.

2)
Thank Gwyn, no ring improves damage of weapon buffs, only durations

3)
- FaP + Havel/Hornet.
- Firstborn ring mayube interesting for max. 50 FTH WotG cancer.

4)
- 20/16 are very tame STR and DEX requirements. Always full moveset for variety. People in those ranges are very able to parry your lame spams, if you don't mix it up.

- For PvP meta purposes get enough poise and fastroll.

Can you share your creation using mugenmonkey? Sounds interesting.

[DevonShire]

http://mmdks.com/8knn

[The Koro]

Thanks

[Fashionbeast]

"My creation" is a bit too prestious.
And stat points are not really optimal, because "needs and demand of fashion souls".

Original it was the "Golden Knight" build from some YT channel, revisited by "Kaz" and then copied and salvaged by me, after realizing "Server" (even DMB +3) didn't really cut it anymore.

Here is the underoptimized build, how he is right now:

ObsidianGS FTH Knight [mugenmonkey.com]

I am sure you are a smart fellow and can do better :)

[Abaddon]

Can you explain why VIT > 50, END > 40, chaos dagger and dark hand?

[Fashionbeast]

Originally posted by Abaddon:

Can you explain why VIT > 50, END > 40, chaos dagger and dark hand?

It is effective. (Though not my cup of tea;) )

VIT>50 for 2000HP+ (which lets you survive even Havelmom)
END >40 until you reach fastroll breakpoint (notice the free ring slot)
"Chaos Dagger" backstabs REALLY hurt. (especially with the Hornet ring)
"Dark Hand" is the lightest shield with decent parry frames and some blocking ability.

[Abaddon]

I'll take that build and improve upon, thanks. I didn't know most of that stuff!

Now I have to find out how to roll swap the talisman with the pyro flame and find an armor to match my visual style.

[The Koro]

Originally posted by Abaddon:

I'll take that build and improve upon, thanks. I didn't know most of that stuff!

Me too. Never played with a dragon weapon. But to farm the Obsidian....

Kalameet....

DAMN!

[Squerol]

Maybe try my build

http://mmdks.com/8knz

53 poise with favor + hornet rings on

378 def with 99 humanity

great combustion

1708 hp

thorn leggings on (to cancel backstabs)

What more do You need ? XD

[Abaddon]

Originally posted by Squerol:

Maybe try my build

http://mmdks.com/8knz

Looks good, but in my opinion, no buff, no apparent PvE appeal, and I'm not a fan of parrywinning. I've won a lot of fights parry fishing, but that's plain boring, pretty much takes the fun ouf of fighting.

In short, good build, but not what I'm looking for.

Thanks!

[Abaddon]

Lingering dragoncrest ring reportedly does NOT buff miracle durations, so it's time to find new rings!

These are the only rings I personally feel like using:

01. Chlorianthy, all around
02. Havel, all around but probably overkill on this build
03. Steel, defenses over 9000
04. Red tearstone, shenanigans?
05. Slumbering dragoncrest + Ring of fog, only for this particular combo in PvE zones.
06. Wolf ring for poise-through 2h attacks, e.g. unstoppable explosion of flavor
07. Hornet ring, even though I don't really like parrying when I'm using heavy weapons.
08. DWGR, never a bad choice.
09. FAP ring, looks really interesting but I always feel like this ring is too PvP-focused.
10. EWGR, because more explosions!

Have you guys tried the steel ring? Is it worth the slot as opposted to, let's say, havel ring and heavier armor?

[The Fountaineer 🖋]

I have Obsidian on my low level pyro. it's an alright weapon, I just dislike the wind up for the 2H R2. Don't even need the 20 strength to wield it, since my character is Dex: i just got up to 15 STR and two hand it all the time, in conjuction with pyromancies.