3rd year Child question

[Grannylover4lyfe]

My child has started saying no one likes him (I married Lumina), and that everyone is yelling at him all the time. I saw a post similar to this but cannot find it anymore- I hugged him to the point of max happiness in year 2 so i'm not sure if this is a random trait, or something I simply did without realizing it and maybe I didn't hug him enough or maybe it's normal? Can someone tell me if their kid does this too? is it because of something specific done or is it random or what?

[AsianGirlLover]

I’d also like an answer. I suspect it’s tied to having “too much money” and not introducing him to enough of your friends when he was a toddler.

I’ve also heard Nami and Lumina’s children are predisposed to those traits, sadly. Hopefully someone has a more concrete answer. Interestingly enough, people have been trying to datamine the game for a while now, so it’ll only be a matter of time before we find out how it all works.

[OisforOlivia]

I married cecilia and my child is doing this too! it will happen if you dont carry your child around to introduce them around town in year 2 apparently!

[Grannylover4lyfe]

Originally posted by OisforOlivia:

I married cecilia and my child is doing this too! it will happen if you dont carry your child around to introduce them around town in year 2 apparently!

That is so strange, I took him everyday/every other day to go see either gustafa, romana/sebastian or everyone on vesta's farm (trying to influence music and/or ranching/farming) I wonder if you have to go talk to multiple people not just main people you want to influence them??? thank you for the answer i'm gonna have to keep this in mind in my other save >_<
Thanks to you both!!

[owl]

I married Lumina and in year 2, I actively carried the child to meet people (especially people around the farm -- Vesta's trio, Takakura, Inn people, passbyers who walk up to the forest). In Year 3, although the child sometimes (rarely) says that he is scared that people may dislike him, he never says that 'everyone yells at him all the time.'

My guess is that the liked -- disliked, and happy -- unhappy traits exist on a continuum.
[bad: disliked / yelled at] -- [mild: anxious of being disliked] -- [good: liked? happy?]

Again, this is just a guess.

Also, I think there's a bit of RnG involved when it comes to the child's mischievous traits.
I re-load my game in Winter 10 Year 2 several times, and got different traits and child's dialogues in Day 1 of Year 3:
- one save has the child as described above: mostly happy, described as sweet by Takakura's narrative, and has a rare dialogue of being anxious about being disliked. RnG guess: mischievous trait is low.
- one save has the child having rebellious dialogues, and often says that he is disliked by the villagers. RnG guess: mischievous trait is high.

[Zrim]

I married Nami, currently in 2nd Year. Often bringing my son around wherever I work at the farm, and meeting people when Van is in town whilst giving gifts often to others. Not sure how my child will be in 3rd year, will report back when I got there.

[Zrim]

Originally posted by Zrim:

I married Nami, currently in 2nd Year. Often bringing my son around wherever I work at the farm, and meeting people when Van is in town whilst giving gifts often to others. Not sure how my child will be in 3rd year, will report back when I got there.

So I'm in 4th Spring, Year 3. My son hasn't talk about people yelling or dislike him, only he has been curious about the villagers works/hobbies and how cool they are. He also says Nami loves his drawing but he was skeptical about it, and his diary he says that although I was always busy he still loves me.

My relationship with the villagers are all red and often bringing him (toddler) to Vesta's farm, and if Van open his shop I bring my son to meet everyone. Also I do bring my son to see Kate, Hugh, Mukumuku and Lou when he says "want to see friend/saw a girl, where she go?/Mukumuku" and rarely skip holding and snuggle him when he asked to. As for toys in his box, I only leave the Ball, others I kept in my inventory but I do bring him along almost all the time wherever I work. I also show food I've cook and tools to him everyday, until during Winter I didn't expect his dialog would change when showing those. I also won't skip giving gifts to Nami if I did give gifts to other villager girls.

As for Takakura narrative, I forgot the whole narrative but he does says my son wants to do whatever I do (cutscene of him fishing at the Goddess Pond), a custcene of him crouching while playing with our dog, and narrative saying I've been a good parent. So yeah that about it I guess, if I get the dislike/yelling dialog from my son, I will report them back here.

[Zrim]

Originally posted by Felz:

I married Lumina and in year 2, I actively carried the child to meet people (especially people around the farm -- Vesta's trio, Takakura, Inn people, passbyers who walk up to the forest). In Year 3, although the child sometimes (rarely) says that he is scared that people may dislike him, he never says that 'everyone yells at him all the time.'

My guess is that the liked -- disliked, and happy -- unhappy traits exist on a continuum.
[bad: disliked / yelled at] -- [mild: anxious of being disliked] -- [good: liked? happy?]

Again, this is just a guess.

Also, I think there's a bit of RnG involved when it comes to the child's mischievous traits.
I re-load my game in Winter 10 Year 2 several times, and got different traits and child's dialogues in Day 1 of Year 3:
- one save has the child as described above: mostly happy, described as sweet by Takakura's narrative, and has a rare dialogue of being anxious about being disliked. RnG guess: mischievous trait is low.
- one save has the child having rebellious dialogues, and often says that he is disliked by the villagers. RnG guess: mischievous trait is high.

Additional to mischievous trait, I read somewhere that the first cutscene where you enter you child's bedroom, it will be either a Wooden Box (if the child is Reserved/Calm) or a Tree Branch (if the child is Outgoing/Naughty). My Nami's child got a wooden box.

P/s: My answer to the cutscene was "Treasure" (get minus relationship points, no skills gain), he still accept gifts afterwards though. I wonder how they count the mischievous trait and if it will affect Year 4 outcome..

[Jerry Swarovski]

Originally posted by Zrim:

Originally posted by Felz:

I married Lumina and in year 2, I actively carried the child to meet people (especially people around the farm -- Vesta's trio, Takakura, Inn people, passbyers who walk up to the forest). In Year 3, although the child sometimes (rarely) says that he is scared that people may dislike him, he never says that 'everyone yells at him all the time.'

My guess is that the liked -- disliked, and happy -- unhappy traits exist on a continuum.
[bad: disliked / yelled at] -- [mild: anxious of being disliked] -- [good: liked? happy?]

Again, this is just a guess.

Also, I think there's a bit of RnG involved when it comes to the child's mischievous traits.
I re-load my game in Winter 10 Year 2 several times, and got different traits and child's dialogues in Day 1 of Year 3:
- one save has the child as described above: mostly happy, described as sweet by Takakura's narrative, and has a rare dialogue of being anxious about being disliked. RnG guess: mischievous trait is low.
- one save has the child having rebellious dialogues, and often says that he is disliked by the villagers. RnG guess: mischievous trait is high.

Additional to mischievous trait, I read somewhere that the first cutscene where you enter you child's bedroom, it will be either a Wooden Box (if the child is Reserved/Calm) or a Tree Branch (if the child is Outgoing/Naughty). My Nami's child got a wooden box.

P/s: My answer to the cutscene was "Treasure" (get minus relationship points, no skills gain), he still accept gifts afterwards though. I wonder how they count the mischievous trait and if it will affect Year 4 outcome..

My daughter have wooden box and increase alot the academics i just pick the answer
"it could be something else" then it's the future and instantly my daughter likes from music straight to academics. but yes i have same problem she always said people yell at her i just hope this is not gonna be bad or something. since 2nd chapter i don't even mining too much anymore because i always carry her meet alot of people

[Grannylover4lyfe]

I believe i've figured out why my child does this, so you can take him around town, drop him off, have him walk home trying to influence him/her in a specific field. But you need to take your child around town routinely and talk to everyone while holding them not just the ppl you want to influence them. If you do this, they will not say people are yelling at them/don't like them in chapter 3 because you properly socialized them with the town.
There's also speculation that taking away all toys (which I did) may lead to depression on top of this, but there is no strict info on this.
With datamining it's also been shown that snuggling/lullaby/throwing your child no longer gives them friendship points, only picking them up when they ask does. (probably why they don't show hearts or music notes when doing these things anymore? :/ )

I saw a clear difference in this between my child (who I only did this with gustafa, cecilia, vesta and never took them out/socialized them otherwise) and someone else's child who routinely took their child into town talking to everyone while holding them (both children were born from lumina). In year 3 the other persons child was perfectly fine without any depressive issues and never said these things.
I could still be wrong, but I think I have solved my own question as of the moment! Lol

On top of this you can learn how mischevious your child is dependent on some things in their room, at least in regards to the older game (uncertain if it carried over) here is a link to things in the older game that signaled about your child just incase it does hold any relevance:
https://harvestmoon.neoseeker.com/wiki/Your_Child_(AWL)

the difference between the branch or the box scene seems to be tied to if your child is extroverted or introverted (molly's child has only been seen with the branch, while lumina's child has the treasure box scene) but i'm not sure if this is 100% concrete, it's mainly what i've seen/witnessed/heard. Feel free to update if you guys find anything or discover anything. :)

[Yami Houkai]

I'm not sure if this could help or not, but this happen on my play.
First of all, i haven't completely befriend all villager yet in chapter 3.
Now regarding the child, my child say the same stuff too a few times when i talk to her (married with Lumina too in here), and then i started to increase friendship more to the villager that still lack of it. Now, i didn't see my child say people hates her or yelling at her as much as before.
Maybe the villager friendship to us might have some effect on the child too?
Oh and in my case, i showing her to Romana, Sebastian, Gavin, and Gustafa during chapter 2.

[FallenAmberCloud]

From my experience.
Yr 2:
Almost max out friendship on half of villager's friendship.
(If this helps, I already have all villagers on middle friendship level slider to maxed range.)
Only shown the child to the entire villagers once.
Got every toys in the toybox, also got the bucket.
Saw cutscenes of her using the toy with Takakura 3 times in total.
Shown milk to the child whenever i remembered i had one in the bag, so once every few days. Did shown forage & digsite items to the child.
Almost daily, picked up the child and toss her up. Sometimes, snuggle her but often than not, did talk to her while holding.
Maxed out the friendship at late winter.

(End of Yr2, almost every villagers i met are either on happy icon or max friendship, with exception of some villagers almost at happy icon)
(Waste the starlight event on giving minor points to farming on a child, i was curious how much it gave and continued on.)

End up getting Outgoing Personality, she have the Athlete for likes as a toddler so no surprise for me.

I have a wild guess that marrying who, will have an impact of what traits are given to the child. (Probably not true.)

[owl]

Originally posted by Yami Houkai:

I'm not sure if this could help or not, but this happen on my play.
First of all, i haven't completely befriend all villager yet in chapter 3.
Now regarding the child, my child say the same stuff too a few times when i talk to her (married with Lumina too in here), and then i started to increase friendship more to the villager that still lack of it. Now, i didn't see my child say people hates her or yelling at her as much as before.
Maybe the villager friendship to us might have some effect on the child too?
Oh and in my case, i showing her to Romana, Sebastian, Gavin, and Gustafa during chapter 2.

I just realized this in my Year 3. Lumina's child, early in the Spring of Year 3, still talked about being afraid of others disliking him. But as I progressed with the villagers' friendships by increasing their fondness levels (I had only 1/5 maxed out by the end of Year 2), by early Autumn, the child no longer has dialogues about it!

So, I think there is a probability that low self esteem issue can be rectified as we befriend more villagers in Year 3. (I think I befriended/maxed out 3-4 more people in Spring to Summer of Year 3).