BLR is a "fake" game?

[SeaLabCaptn]

Valve wants to purge "fake" games from their store, rightfully so. My question is what constitutes a "fake" game? Do you feel BLR in it's current state is such a game, and why/why not?

I believe that BLR should be taken off Steam because of many factors.

In it's current form, which is highly unlikely to change in the future, BLR is a low quality game. Running the game is difficult for many users, bugs that render the game unplayable occur frequently and appear in a variety of forms, devs show no interest in improving these bugs or game play, nearly all game modes are played identically, maps are poorly designed and glitchy, and there is basically nothing remarkably positive about this title. I'm fairly certain very few players would pay to own a game that is such poor quality, and being F2P should not be enough justification alone for this title's existence with such issues.

I feel BLR could be considered an "asset flip" by a loose definition of the term. Assets are not available for purchase to the general public, but HSL acquired the assets from Zombie studios and made a markedly worse game with them. Post-parity BLR feels like a cheap knock off from the game that preceded it. Practically every aspect of the game diminished in quality and it feels like a poor substitute now.

The publisher runs contests offering real world currency equivalent as prizes but never rewards them. When confronted about the rewards a year after the contest opened the publisher (who held the contest) deflected responsibility to the developer's seemingly dead support page of their site. http://steamcommunity.com/app/209870/discussions/1/135513901710948555/

I feel that the owners are not using legitimate methods of earning income, but relying on dubious practices to make an easy buck with little actual effort involved. Current economy model heavily encourages "pay-to-avoid-grind". This wouldn't usually be an issue, except the GP pricing of all items recently skyrocketed, and it seems that the publisher is just trying to make easy money by setting the cost of in game items so ridiculously high. Purchasing items with real world currency doesn't net the player anything that majorly affects game play, nor does it unlock special abilities like trading passes or custom server mutators used to. Steam trading cards are still available IIRC, not available through hours played but only through real world currency purchases, and also provide nothing of substance other than avoiding grind. I also suspect the publisher makes the most profit from this game by selling user's information to third parties.

BLR utilizes outdated or incorrect selling points to sneak onto search categories in the Steam store. Achievements are broken and do not work properly. Steam trading cards are seemingly just a cash grab. Map editor exists but user made creations will likely never make their way into the game. If you search the store for games that have these attributes BLR will come up despite these functions not working properly. http://steamcommunity.com/app/209870/discussions/1/135513549092382835/

Staff show little interest in policing the community and enforcing the rules on everyone. A majority of the time staff allow gamers that advance development to break community rules, and at the same time actively enforce the rules with a heavy hand against players that have negative things to say about the title and their "efforts". http://steamcommunity.com/app/209870/discussions/1/135513549091655355/

What do you think, should BLR be removed from Steam store until these issues are remedied?

[Neon Lotus]

I think Steam should give the devs a message like "Improve the game or we'll remove it from steam" in the hopes it will make them add something rather then continuosly remove things.

[Monarchco]

Originally posted by Glass Wizzard:

I think Steam should give the devs a message like "Improve the game or we'll remove it from steam" in the hopes it will make them add something rather then continuosly remove things.

lol. They probably couldn't care less. ♥♥♥♥, with the lack of any advertising whatsoever, the reason it's on steam is almost certainly PWE(who still puts all their stuff on steam despite having their own platform).

[SeaLabCaptn]

Funny enough, PWE games being removed from Steam recently played a role in this thread's creation. http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/forsaken-world/news/detail/10458302-important-information-for-steam-users

[Monarchco]

Originally posted by SeaLabCaptn:

Funny enough, PWE games being removed from Steam recently played a role in this thread's creation. http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/forsaken-world/news/detail/10458302-important-information-for-steam-users

it could have been PWE's decision instead of steam.

They aren't lying when they say it'll streamline the release process in a more efficient manner.

Steam verifies updates before they allow them to be pushed out. This is why EVE Online's independent client updates 1-2 weeks before the steam client version gets the update(at least at one time. Now its a few days).

[SeaLabCaptn]

Looking more and more like Valve was full of hot air: https://youtu.be/XiKTOe7ZD_w

[Monarchco]

Originally posted by SeaLabCaptn:

Looking more and more like Valve was full of hot air: https://youtu.be/XiKTOe7ZD_w

its been a year. Are you f***ing serious?

[SeaLabCaptn]

No, not serious at all, totally an early April Fool's joke, ah ya got me. /s

:/

[BlakNoble]

Blasphemy! the creator cant necro their own thread!

[Monarchco]

Originally posted by BlakNoble:

Blasphemy! the creator cant necro their own thread!

Has nothing to do with necro. Necro isn't really a thing on steam. It's not against forum rules etc.

I just can't believe he's seriously still on this ♥♥♥♥ about it being a fake game.

Definitely not a fake game. Just a great title that devolved a lot like the Planetside franchise thanks to an incompetent greedy studio.

[SeaLabCaptn]

Mmm, looks like muh thread gots itself a subscriber! Oh Monarch, you'd better go fetch Dr. Mrs. Monarch to save you. It's about to get all Swedish Murder Machine up in here.

First up, not a year yet. Last I checked butterflies use the same calendar the rest of us do. Stop exaggerating, you're only adding to how foolish you're making yourself look here (very).

You're ignorant on who owns what rights, and claim to know the truth while providing zero evidence. You know, evidence? That thing I've provided multiple times, yet you haven't shown once in this thread? Yeah, that. Get you some.

You fail to understand how patches work for both platforms post-parity, ignoring HSL VP explanations as to how it works. This information is really easy to find and understand, but you failed to do either.

I'm not surprised, since you also foolishly think PS4 forum is a good source for recent BLR news. Wrong again, my pretty butterfly.

You then foolishly claimed IF BLR received a patch in 2017, it would be PS4 only. Just astounding intel there, mind sharing the source of this ridiculous statement?

You know what? Don't bother trying.

It's clear from your posts that you're a waste of time. You're either trolling (terribly), or just really uninformed about this title while mistakenly thinking you're Jonas-on-the-spot. Sorry kid, you're clearly a Dean, and not even a good one.

With two exceptions (which I'm getting to), everything you've stated in this thread is either factually inaccurate (ie: WRONG) or simply your opinion. Evidence, get you some.

Absolutely nothing you've stated has any evidence to support your sweet little chrysalis theories, except these here:

Originally posted by Monarchco:

Spacebase DF-9 is still on steam and able to be bought.

Top notch fact there. Too bad it's still unrelated to OP. My favorite part, round two:

Originally posted by Monarchco:

I mentioned DF9 because, as steam's definition goes; "derivative, broken, and poorly made titles churned out by potentially unscrupulous developers looking for quick cash"

It is the definition. Nevermind that it was the first game on Steam to fit the definition. As well, that it fits the definition SIGNIFICANTLY more so than BLR.

Ah, but you're admitting BLR fits the definition you yourself are using for a "fake game". BLR may not fit the definition as well as your unrelated other fact fits, but you admit BLR does fit the definition. Now there's a point you've made that I agree with, BLR can be considered a fake game! Looks like we're all done here my little pupa, thank you for what little relevant information you provided!

Quit coming at me with your garbage attitude kid. It's clear you're trying too hard to be something you obviously aren't (well informed on the topic at hand and presented well enough for factual debate). Monarch, right? Like, don't you have milkweed to be sucking? Maintain that toxicity and all that? I get it, I'm mutilating your precious cocoon HQ like hot Brock on Guild action. Sweetie, you're not even 24; you're an underdeveloped Dean clone sent out on the front lawn as a diversion, so Sgt Hatred can get everyone to safety. I'm usually not so eager to rip someone off their self-appointed pedestal, but you're just so very wrong about everything, I couldn't help myself.

You make me come back again, sweetie, next time I'm bringing my car.

New point I made was it seems Valve doesn't care anymore. So, you see, you're wadding up your panties over nothing! No need to call in your fluttering horde, your awful, fake game is safe for now.

When does 7 drop already?!

Funsies edit: BLR now has swallowed players IRL currency and support is closed. Nothing says "totally not a fake game" like removing the utility of cash in game, not giving refunds for the now useless currency, and closing the support channel, all allegedly "temporarily" for months at a time. What a way to promote the revival!

[spuge]

An amusing read. Getting over it is the most shameless of cash grabs and I own the damn thing.

[SpaceMariner]

Ofcourse it is not, you should see its gold era. It was amazing when released. It is just get old and main publisher sank sadly. If they improve mechanics, this game still have chance.
Just need a HUGE update on Steam like Scorpion Tank or even better.

[SeaLabCaptn]

Sure, and I'm the greatest musician that's ever lived, you should've seen me in my prime! I just got old and my band broke up. I haven't done anything worth mentioning in years, but I'm still the greatest!

Sorry, but I just don't see the logic in this line of thinking.

I played BLR during it's "gold era", I started in 2012. I've seen all the changes the game's gone through. This is why I'm confident stating the best version of BLR isn't the one we have now. Judging by population, I'd say I'm not alone.

I blame the former publisher as well, but indirectly. I believe the developers were feuding with the former publisher, and the developers purposefully sabotaged the title in response. It's the only rational way I can explain each patch making the game progressively worse, and the developers either ignoring requests that would improve the game, or doing the opposite action of the requests. There's plenty more evidence that supports my theory, but I won't get into that now.

The publisher is out of the picture now. This means HSL either can't make BLR better, or they're choosing not to.

It's pointless to argue how good the game used to be. All we can do now is judge the version they've left us with. If the only argument against BLR being a fake game is "it used to be good", I feel my point is holding up just fine. Again, judging by population, it seems BLR has been terrible for longer than it was good.

[Monarchco]

Originally posted by SeaLabCaptn:

Sure, and I'm the greatest musician that's ever lived, you should've seen me in my prime! I just got old and my band broke up. I haven't done anything worth mentioning in years, but I'm still the greatest!

Sorry, but I just don't see the logic in this line of thinking.

I played BLR during it's "gold era", I started in 2012. I've seen all the changes the game's gone through. This is why I'm confident stating the best version of BLR isn't the one we have now. Judging by population, I'd say I'm not alone.

Who are you trying to argue with dude? You just said the exact same thing as me and SpaceAutarch.

Originally posted by SeaLabCaptn:

I blame the former publisher as well, but indirectly. I believe the developers were feuding with the former publisher, and the developers purposefully sabotaged the title in response.

You're an idiot. PWE is why the game was the way it was.

And Hardsuit is why the game is the way it is now.

It's not hard logic.

[Monarchco]

Originally posted by SeaLabCaptn:

If the only argument against BLR being a fake game is "it used to be good",

No. It's not. If you learned to read. You'd know the game still has a healthy playerbase in comparison to where it was years ago. It's retained its userbase better than most games.

The game currently has a 30 day average that is about 1/3rd of where it was 4 years ago.
World of Warcraft has a 30 day average that is LESS than 1/3rd of where it was 4 years ago.

Does this mean WoW is a "fake game"? I think Blizzard would take you to court if you argued so.

Look at the userbase. BLR was never a successful game on PC.