Scoi'atael or Order of The Flaming Rose?

[Atom.Little]

Which faction did you choose, Scoi'atael or Order of The Flaming Rose?

I thought I could remain neutral, and I can to a degree, but I had to chose which side to help when the bank hostage situation came about. I refused to pick a side and also refused to help the Scoi'atael, so I was sided with The Order.

What choice did you make, and why? Would you make the same choice again?

[Storm_at_Sea]

引用自 X/X-2 FAN：

I just personally despise corruption, racism, ignorance, and general barbarity. I hold humans to a higher ethical standard than that, and in this game they have failed to meet that standard.

Yes they do fail, they still do. The real world (which you won't find on the news- they're too busy 'playing along') is much worse now, and I thought the humans were bad enough in medieval times. Some things improved, others worsened considerably. I always side with the Elves, because most the humans in the game disgust me so.

You already mentioned why: "humans who value power & wealth". That's still their problem today (but I'd throw 'greed' into that description also, they're kind of hand-in-hand).

Enjoy the game!

[Piftuka]

引用自 thewolfwarden：

picking a side is a spoiler. and i doubt anyone that has not beat the game will been reading this. but my bad.

To be honest, you are wrong with this. As I haven't finished the game yet... I'm just at the end of Chapter II, but I wanted to have some information, whether I should choose a side before the battle between the Order and the elves at the Golems' ground, or should I remain neutral.

But unfortunately you spoiled the ending of the game for me... :/

[⛥ ⌁⌁L⁕ꝉ⁜ϾH ⌁⌁]

引用自 piftuka：

I'm just at the end of Chapter II, but I wanted to have some information, whether I should choose a side before the battle between the Order and the elves at the Golems' ground, or should I remain neutral.

The best way is to have a save point at a juncture. I duplicate the save and rename it which corrupts the renamed save but it sits next to the working save so you can tell where it's at. Then you can choose a different option and do the other quest lines without restarting from the beginning. That way you can do every path.

[david.szwer]

I went with the Order up to (and including) the end of chapter 4. But that's mainly because the Scoi'atael were clearly in the wrong at that moment: they had hostages in the bank and at Murky Waters, and the group in the swamp openly admitted they wanted to kill as many humans as possible in the city . Generally, the humans are in the wrong just as often, but we don't often get a chance to intervene in the game (a quest to help Vivaldi get his bank back would have been great).

However, having just started Chapter 5, I now find that Geralt has turned into a total bigot, spouting all sorts of "kill all the non-humans" rubbish and refusing to believe his "best mate" Zoltan's stories of Order atrocities . I don't mind being forced to choose between two unsavoury options; but I wish the game recognised that I opposed the Scoi'atael, but not non-humans in general (especially after specifically choosing the "the elves are just desperate" dialogue with Alvin in Muddy Waters). I'm going to reload a save just before the Muddy Waters choice, and stay neutral, just to avoid that - even though it feels like a cowardly option.

[Spartacus Nada]

1st run I chose The Scoia'tael path, 2nd The Witcher / neutral path. Currently doing The Order run.

[Thodin]

The neutral path outcome of W1 pretty much reflects the starting situation in The Witcher 2. Thats why I prefer to go neutral. Also...Geralt always has a neutral attitude in the books and is not really taking sides.

If you plan to support the Sco'iathel in Witcher 2, you should also side with them in Witcher 1. It makes some things easier for you. But I never liked those rebels. They're really ruthless in the books and arent the good guys you might expect. The Sco'iathel wont appear in W3 (just in one single sidequest), so this wont pay off.

The best gaming expierence and the most coherent story line (imho):

Witcher 1:
Go neutral, choose Triss (not Shani), side with Thaler.
Kill the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Sco'iathel.
Get all three very special reward-swords and the Raven's Armor. Sell everything else before the end and earn alot of income. As a general rule, spare everyone you dont really have to kill.

Supporting the Flaming Rose wont have alot impact on Witcher 2 or 3. Theres only one minor situation in the last act of Witcher 2, its not worth it.

Witcher 2:
You'll take over the special swords, a certain percentage of your gold and the armor.
Kill the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Sco'iathel.
Choose Roche's Path, make love with Triss, dont remove the Blue Stripes tattoo and spare Leto. Same rule: Spare everyone you dont really have to kill, escpecially Sheila. Support Roche in his last mission to get the Loc Muinne Massacre, let Leto save Triss.

If you support the Sco'iathel you experience a totally different game with new insights and different parts of the story. I recommend it, but make sure to finally import Roche's save to W3, since there are no Sco'iatel and related characters in W3.

Witcher 3:
Profit, the whole story arc is coherent. You meet quite a few NPCs of W1 and W2. And dont forget: Kill all ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Sco'iathel on sight. You wont take over any Item or gold from W2, except your precious Blue Stripes tatoo.

[Razputin]

I went neutral all the way except on the bank. However I'm quite saddaned with what happened at the end of chapter 4 due to my neutrality because I remember Toruviel from The Last Wish.

[Wetterfee]

The Order!

The rough and vengeful attitude of the scoia'thel outcasts really makes it hard for me to sympathize with them, even knowing that they're going through hard times. The Order on the other side, especially Siegfried, act with way more honor and selfcontrol.

[Triscc]

引用自 michal.rpg：

引用自 AmaDraque：

In the books, apart from protecting the weak, does Geralt side with anybody, or is he neutral?

In books he's always neutral, until he's forced to choose, like in game. Because his profession he's often treated like a tool so he learned to keep his own side, which means, mostly, everybody hates him.

so whats your choice at vivald's bank ? which side geralt will pick at that situration

[pardner patsy]

I picked the Scoi'atel.
Because of the decisions I made earlier on the Scoi'atel won the battle in the Swamp Forest making them seem considerably less useless. I think their cause was valid while the Order's cause was only to fight the Scoi'atel and their means went beyond that by doing much more damage then the Scoi'atel were doing to them by means of muder and more extreme racism then was shown from non-humans to humans. I tried to stay neutral, but I thought that afterwards that it is better to pick a side and help people rather than attempt to stay away from conflict.

[⛥ ⌁⌁L⁕ꝉ⁜ϾH ⌁⌁]

引用自 Baaron：

I picked the Scoi'atel.
Because of the decisions I made earlier on the Scoi'atel won the battle in the Swamp Forest making them seem considerably less useless. I think their cause was valid while the Order's cause was only to fight the Scoi'atel and their means went beyond that by doing much more damage then the Scoi'atel were doing to them by means of muder and more extreme racism then was shown from non-humans to humans. I tried to stay neutral, but I thought that afterwards that it is better to pick a side and help people rather than attempt to stay away from conflict.

Problem with the things is it's too much modern politics layover on it making it difficult. Humans racist against elves etc is like a farmer looking down on a king. They also made most of the elves look asian for some wierd ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ reason....complicating things immensely. Would be very interesting to know who made that decision.

[Storm_at_Sea]

Odd. I never noticed anything that made me think the Elves looked Asian. I never would've thought that. Though I do agree with the other thing, the humans always are so inferior in these games, and grating to my nerves. Subhuman- many of them. It's no wonder I choose the Elves.

[⛥ ⌁⌁L⁕ꝉ⁜ϾH ⌁⌁]

引用自 Storm_at_Sea：

Odd. I never noticed anything that made me think the Elves looked Asian. I never would've thought that. Though I do agree with the other thing, the humans always are so inferior in these games, and grating to my nerves. Subhuman- many of them. It's no wonder I choose the Elves.

really? many of them have black hair, and cropped scalps, http://f.tqn.com/y/asianhistory/1/W/z/W/-/-/Chinese_Meal_by_Lai_Afong-_c1880.JPG

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/witcher/images/3/35/People_Elf_full.png/revision/latest?cb=20080923021818

Even the armour etc is that eastern barbarian type. Elves are known to have predominantly fair hair. Again not all, most of the female elves pass. The half elf looks great and as expected if you see her card.

[Ragnarök]

I think the Elves were made to look like Native Americans, not Asians. Which makes more sense given their penchant for archery, their attacks on caravans and the nature of the war they're fighting.

https://www.manataka.org/images/Mohawk%20Haircut%20wes-studi-magua.jpg

[Storm_at_Sea]

引用自 Ragnarök：

I think the Elves were made to look like Native Americans, not Asians. Which makes more sense given their penchant for archery, their attacks on caravans and the nature of the war they're fighting.

and love of nature. That seems more likely to me, but who knows.