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Atom.Little Feb 8, 2015 @ 6:12am
Scoi'atael or Order of The Flaming Rose?
Which faction did you choose, Scoi'atael or Order of The Flaming Rose?

I thought I could remain neutral, and I can to a degree, but I had to chose which side to help when the bank hostage situation came about. I refused to pick a side and also refused to help the Scoi'atael, so I was sided with The Order.

What choice did you make, and why? Would you make the same choice again?
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Chunkarock Feb 8, 2015 @ 6:59am 
The order. They're racists but at least they're fighting for something that is achievable. The Scoi'atael is just fighting for a lost cause. But if I was presented with a choice between two evils, I'd go with the lesser one, Squirrels or not.
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Ragnarök Feb 8, 2015 @ 10:28am 
At Vivaldi's Bank? The Order. They were responding to a hostage situation and a legitimate ongoing crime. The Scoia'tael do way too much hopeless nonsense for me to ever side with them in this game.
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Atom.Little Feb 8, 2015 @ 10:31am 
Originally posted by Centurio:
The order. They're racists but at least they're fighting for something that is achievable. The Scoi'atael is just fighting for a lost cause. But if I was presented with a choice between two evils, I'd go with the lesser one, Squirrels or not.
Yaewyn put me off with his arrogance while Sigfried at least has some redeeming qualities, but at the end of the day I'd have probably stayed neutral anyway until one of the sides offended me enough to make me want to stop them. Yaewyn did a decent job at that, but it takes more than words to push me into a war.

In real life my stand is that no race or lifestyle is superior to another, they're just different, and versatility is a good thing, so morally I should've fought for the Scoi'atael. Yet I don't think I would've because of the very reason you mention. There's no point in picking a side that you know will loose.
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Ragnarök Feb 8, 2015 @ 5:10pm 
Originally posted by AmaDraque:

Morally, you should have done nothing. The Scoia'tael's motto is "Drive them into the sea!" in regards to humans. What they want is literally no different than what the Order wants, they just happen to be bad at accomplishing it.
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Atom.Little Feb 8, 2015 @ 7:09pm 
Originally posted by Ragnarök:
Originally posted by AmaDraque:

Morally, you should have done nothing. The Scoia'tael's motto is "Drive them into the sea!" in regards to humans. What they want is literally no different than what the Order wants, they just happen to be bad at accomplishing it.
Ideally I'd remain neutral, that's how I feel about it. But in real life remaining neutral will often place you in the middle, becoming subject to hate and disdain from both sides (I'm speaking from experience), and you can rarely change anything from such a position.

But I understand what you mean.
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thewolfwarden Feb 8, 2015 @ 7:49pm 
i pick the Scoi'atael . I thought it was the better chioces. and that the real enemy of the game is the leader of the Order.
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R1p0 Feb 8, 2015 @ 8:16pm 
Originally posted by thewolfwarden:
i pick the Scoi'atael . I thought it was the better chioces. and that the real enemy of the game is the leader of the Order.
DONT SPOIL them!!!
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thewolfwarden Feb 8, 2015 @ 8:56pm 
Originally posted by J4ckTh3R!pp3r:
Originally posted by thewolfwarden:
i pick the Scoi'atael . I thought it was the better chioces. and that the real enemy of the game is the leader of the Order.
DONT SPOIL them!!!
picking a side is a spoiler. and i doubt anyone that has not beat the game will been reading this. but my bad.
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R1p0 Feb 9, 2015 @ 6:14am 
Originally posted by thewolfwarden:
Originally posted by J4ckTh3R!pp3r:
DONT SPOIL them!!!
picking a side is a spoiler. and i doubt anyone that has not beat the game will been reading this. but my bad.
Yeah but ''picking a side'' actually isn't much of spoiler. You didn't say much, just names! But in your comment you already said who's final boss! I just wanna help not to spoil, as I would for you, for people who still plays......I finish it. it was great!
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Atom.Little Feb 9, 2015 @ 1:41pm 
Originally posted by thewolfwarden:
i pick the Scoi'atael . I thought it was the better chioces. and that the real enemy of the game is the leader of the Order.
Do you mean Sigfried? Or the king? (<-- you better 'black' the answer to that if you reply)

I'm just starting on the last chapter (chap V), and I'm very curious to see if Azar Javed has an alternate identity, that he's really someone else than he appears to be. First I thought he might be the king, but then I met the king. Then I thought he might be Berengar, but then I met him too. lol[/quote]Or rather, I thought I met him because the game text implied it was the case.

But now, at the beginning of Chapter V, I met the king again, this time the real king named Foltest. I immediately noticed his voice was very different and his face didn't look the same either, but I wasn't sure if it was because they'd used a different voice actor - or it might even be a late recorded addition as we find here and there with Geralt, though in his case I can always hear it's the same person doing the voice-over.

So now I'm even more in the dark about who the real main villain is. Who is Radovid and waht is his role in all this?

The game is excellent in that way, it leaves us so many hints as to who are possibly not who they appear to be, while there are also several characters we don't know that much about at all.

So my conclusion is still that saying which side we chose - and even mentioning that the leader of The Order may be the real villain - doesn't qualify as spoilers.

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P.S. It's a good thing to 'black' text that is or may potentially be spoiler material. I'll google it and learn how to do it....unless someone will leave a link - or even a line showing the formatting code? ;)
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michal.rpg Feb 9, 2015 @ 5:10pm 
I've readed books about Geralt before playing the game and I made all decision like book hero would. Developers 'borrowed' many threads from books, so it was easy ;) For Geralt, the easiest way ain't better, he always protect weak and defensless, and he have some debts of the past...
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Ragnarök Feb 9, 2015 @ 7:06pm 
Originally posted by AmaDraque:
So now I'm even more in the dark about who the real main villain is. Who is Radovid and waht is his role in all this?

The real "villian", and I use that word loosely, is Jacques de Aldersberg, who is the Grandmaster of the Order of the Flaming Rose.

Radovid is the King of Redania, a kingdom to the north of Temeria. They're often allies in war but rivals in commerce. He's there to make a power play which will be explained in game.
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Atom.Little Feb 9, 2015 @ 10:02pm 
Originally posted by michal.rpg:
I've readed books about Geralt before playing the game and I made all decision like book hero would. Developers 'borrowed' many threads from books, so it was easy ;) For Geralt, the easiest way ain't better, he always protect weak and defensless, and he have some debts of the past...
I haven't read the books, I didn't even know about them until I played the game and read posts mentioning them.

Protecting the weak - or I'd rather call it 'the innocent' - is what I've done as much as I could in the game, but this is also what eventually forced me to side with The Order, though I didn't know it at the time; I thought I was just helping out on a single mission.

In the books, apart from protecting the weak, does Geralt side with anybody, or is he neutral?
Originally posted by Ragnarök:
Radovid is the King of Redania, a kingdom to the north of Temeria. They're often allies in war but rivals in commerce. He's there to make a power play which will be explained in game.
Ah, so he is a king. Alright.

Thanks for 'blacking out' the spoiler part, now I know how to do it. It's so simple I had to laugh when I saw it. Thanks. :)

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P.S. I should've just opened a quote of a post with a spoiler 'black-out', but for some reason I expected the formatting to not be visible.

It's probably because that's how it is in other versins of msg. forums that I've been used to. There you have to open a different window with a lot of data on the post and the person who posted as well as font, html, and what not, but you can only do so if you're an admin or moderator (or if you own the website).
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michal.rpg Feb 10, 2015 @ 1:06am 
Originally posted by AmaDraque:
In the books, apart from protecting the weak, does Geralt side with anybody, or is he neutral?

In books he's always neutral, until he's forced to choose, like in game. Because his profession he's often treated like a tool so he learned to keep his own side, which means, mostly, everybody hates him.
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Atom.Little Feb 10, 2015 @ 9:03pm 
Originally posted by michal.rpg:
In books he's always neutral, until he's forced to choose, like in game. Because his profession he's often treated like a tool so he learned to keep his own side, which means, mostly, everybody hates him.
This is pretty much how my real life has always been, so I can relate to him.

And this is also what lead me to automatically make the choices that I would've made in real life, which means I was making neutral choices while sometimes helping one side out and not the other when I thought doing so would be better than helping the opposite side or helping no one - not because I was on one side against the other, but because it was the right thing to do in that particular situation.

But in the game this lead me to be considered on The Order's side which did annoy me somewhhat. So if I play the game again in the future, I'll make sure to remain neutral.

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I would still love to hear from more people which side you chose, and why you chose it. Would you choose the same side if you were to play the game again?

Don't hold back - and don't be shy, lol...

Just tell us what faction you think is the right one for you. ;D
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