End of chapter 1... [spoilers]

[L7vanmatre]

This kind of frustrates me. I'm partially on both sides, but your only choice is to go 100% on either side, which I don't believe either choice to be true.

I don't think *all* the villagers are guilty, but I don't think she is 100% innocent, either. You have to pick one or the other, and what I'd choose in that situation if I was really there, is not one of the options I can choose.

I saw the doll of the fat guy, and she *did* try to seduce me (possibly to try to sway me towards her favor, but that can only be assumed). Do I think she summoned the Beast? No. The evil people among the villagers did. She isn't as evil as they say.

The villagers... some of them were telling the truth, and some of them weren't, I personally believe. Unfortunately I have to kill them all anyway if I sided towards her, even if I tell who I believe and don't believe to be innocent among the villagers.

Just frustrating for me. I understand hard choices, but honestly I feel that it's not a hard choice, it's an "every choice is a bad one" sort of choice. Or a lack of choices, perhaps, or maybe a combination of both. If I could just say "You, you, and you are guilty, you, you, and you are innocent, and while she isn't as evil as you say, I do think that she isn't completely innocent. Don't burn her." and best of all, actually ask her what she was doing with the doll... I would pick that choice instead. (But tbh why pick and choose who you believe and don't believe if you're going to have to say everyone is guilty/innocent anyway?)


I have a feeling I might have missed/forgotten something. I really tried to ask what she was doing with the doll, but the option never came up.

[l'homme rouge]

Yes both side is not full innocent but villagers want to kill her.abigail just preparing for self defence.btw beast kill villagers at the end.you only killing who attacks u

[Ragnarök]

If it helps, it pretty easy to tell that Odo is lying regardless of the doll's existence. If Abigail had actually bewitched him to do the things he did, he would have been stricken with remorse upon seeing what he had done and he would have accused Abigail immediately.

Instead, he actively hid his crime, taking to drink to drown his anxiety while biding his time, waiting for an opportunity to destroy her. His brother was pursuing Abigail romantically and Odo was jealous so he killed the brother. Abigail knew it was him but couldn't do anything about it. His word against her's. Simultaneously he wouldn't do anything to her because he was a coward. The doll was likely his punishment, or Abigail's insurance policy.

Abigail was an awful person but the only thing she was actually guilty of was being unscrupulous.

[L7vanmatre]

Originally posted by Ragnarök:

If it helps, it pretty easy to tell that Odo is lying regardless of the doll's existence. If Abigail had actually bewitched him to do the things he did, he would have been stricken with remorse upon seeing what he had done and he would have accused Abigail immediately.

Instead, he actively hid his crime, taking to drink to drown his anxiety while biding his time, waiting for an opportunity to destroy her. His brother was pursuing Abigail romantically and Odo was jealous so he killed the brother. Abigail knew it was him but couldn't do anything about it. His word against her's. Simultaneously he wouldn't do anything to her because he was a coward. The doll was likely his punishment, or Abigail's insurance policy.

Abigail was an awful person but the only thing she was actually guilty of was being unscrupulous.

I see.

Though, I do have doubts about Odo's brother. She seems to try to seduce multiple people. Everyone in the town hated her, so why would Odo be jealous?

And if Odo is a coward, then why would he immediately accuse Abigail instead of wait and gang up with everyone (which is normally what a coward sort of does, even when the truth is on their side)?

I think the game is trying to make him guilty anyways, so I guess you're right in any case. Thanks for the help!

[Ragnarök]

Because she was threatening to become his brother's new center of attention, meaning Odo would stand to lose his free ride if his brother decided to shack up with Abigail. Perhaps he also coveted Abigail though that's speculation.

A better question would be why would Abigail allow for someone who could implicate her in the crime to go on existing? If she had the power to make him do things he would never do, why not make him kill the brother, but also burn the house down with both of them inside?

Perhaps she did possess Odo but perhaps he wasn't averse to the idea of killing his brother at all. The man wasn't even a sad drunk. Perhaps the accusation he made at the trial was just a convienient way to tie up loose ends and get rid of the only person that would be able to implicate him.

I just don't really see the motive behind Abigail killing the brother. If her end game was money the whole time, like Odo claimed, she'd have nothing to gain by it and much to lose. He on the other hand had no shortage of motive and since he was next of kin he stood to gain, and did gain everything.

Then of course there was the fact that there were two Echinops, not one. And they were each on opposite sides of his garden.