Batman Arkham Knight 100% ENDING theory. SPOILERS

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Alright, have you played the game 100%? I know its a crap PC port but common, beat the game. Good? Ok. Here we go....



















I have a theory on the knightfall protocol. I think that the new batman is Jason Todd/♥♥♥♥ Grayson...let me explain. So first of all we know that Tim Drake is (I think) no longer Robin, and married to Barbara (not sure whether or not still Oracle), Nightwing/♥♥♥♥ Grayson is keeping Bludhaven safe, and Jason Todd is no longer the Arkham Knight and now the Red Hood. But what if before the Red Hood story pack, Jason actually becomes batman and uses the scarecrow toxin on criminals. Think about it, Jason was working with Scarecrow. He had to have some lying around as the Arkham Knight. And also what if when Alfred closed the door, Jason actually planted explosives RIGHT before the events in Arkham Knight when he was trying to kill Batman. He didn't want Batman to die after the reveal, so he becomes batman to avenge batman's death. But he still uses guns, fear toxin, and just kills any criminal so sometime after Jason becomes Batman, Nightwing stops Jason (Battle for the Cowl) and then he becomes the true new batman and Jason goes back as the Red Hood. That's just my theory, any thoughts?

[halbermensch999]

Yes exactly, it cannot almost be more clear than when the Bat explains this to the Cat.

[Wysiwyg]

The dumbest part is Batman stating, "Gotham is safe." Uh...no you just put all the criminals in one tiny cell (which you know they will break out of) and the Manbat escaped. There's still work to be done chump.

[Charlie]

The Demonic Batman at the end is likely Bruce Wayne, he continues being Batman after his identity was revealed but he has decided to become Batman 100% of the time. "Gotham needs something worse..." Also the demonic Batman at the end is the same Batman Scarecrow saw when he was under the fear toxin.

[=WH= RC-1025]

It's Azrael. He becomes the Knigh Fall Batman while Bruce goes into hidding for a short time. The Azael goes nuts the Bruce has to come back and take the Batman mantel back from him.

Read the Knightfall series of Batman no real mystery. Nightwing / Grayson takes the Batman title for a short time while Bruce Heales up . But in the end Batman is always Bruce

[Charlie]

Originalmente postado por =WH= RC-1025:

It's Azrael. He becomes the Knigh Fall Batman while Bruce goes into hidding for a short time. The Azael goes nuts the Bruce has to come back and take the Batman mantel back from him.

Read the Knightfall series of Batman no real mystery. Nightwing / Grayson takes the Batman title for a short time while Bruce Heales up . But in the end Batman is always Bruce

There are two outcomes of the Azrael Story...
#1 He gets locked up
#2 He goes after the Order of St Dumas

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Originalmente postado por TheOneWhoWons:

If jason killed Batman then what is knightfall protocol in your theory

Jason didn't mean to kill batman at the end, he only wanted to as the arkham knight

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Originalmente postado por Der Kampfzwerg:

I dont think so. I actually do think that the fear batman is still mr wayne but using new methods.
Btw. Its fun that Mr. Graysons first name was censored ^^-

Its funny I didn't realized Nightwings name was censored until u said. But I don't think that Batman would use something as leathal as Fear Toxin, yes he basically has a tank, but he tries his best not to kill. The fear toxin can kill you easily

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1.) Yea this is called the Knightfall Protocal hinting at the knightfall story arc, but if they can make Jason Todd the Arkham Knight, they can change anything.
2.)I really think that Bruce and Alfred are dead. First of all, when Alfred says "Are you sure you want to do this Master Bruce" I don't think just being batman again but with lethal fear toxin isn't something he would be concerned about. Second, the moment that Alfred closed the door, Wayne Manor burst into flames (got ya wish Firefly). If Bruce wanted to fake his death, I think they would need a little more than 2 seconds to go down to the batcave. And also, I'm not 100% on this, but I think in Origins Alfred said or atleast impied that he would stand right by Bruce no matter what. Fourth, if Bruce became Batman again, I think everyone would just guess exactly what happened. Fifth, why would Batman say goodbye to Catwoman, Nightwing and Gordon if he would just start from scratch? I'm convinced that they are both dead.
3.) The Arkham Knight probuably set explosives on Wayne Manor while Batman was in gotham. The only reason no one knew is that the milita probuably blinded the Batcaves security, then planted the charges soon after Batman walked in.
4.) The reason that after Jason becomes the new batman (I think that Jasons Batsuit and the Nightmare batman look similar) Nightwing leaves Bludhaven to take down Jason is that he knew Batman wouldn't aprove it, defeats Jason, then becomes the true Batman.
5.) Also this might be a stretch, but why would the Batman Beyond suit look so much more militarized and armored than what we got in Arkham City? I think that its actually Jason Todds Batsuit. It looks like Arkham Knight suit lighting up, has a mouth cover, and a red bat symbol just like the red hood logo. But again, its a stretch.

Originalmente postado por GhostMotley:

The Demonic Batman at the end is likely Bruce Wayne, he continues being Batman after his identity was revealed but he has decided to become Batman 100% of the time. "Gotham needs something worse..." Also the demonic Batman at the end is the same Batman Scarecrow saw when he was under the fear toxin.

Originalmente postado por Der Kampfzwerg:

And Bruce would never sacrifice him and Alfred voluntarily

Originalmente postado por Siruss:

So basically killing themselves? There is no way that's possible. I'm sure "Batman commits suicide" is not in the cards. Now that people know it's Bruce, it's a ploy to make people think he's gone so they won't come after him.
You don't go from having the mental fortitude to overcome Scarecrow's toxin to the point it doesn't effect you, to suicide right after. That makes no sense at all.
Perhaps Azrael does become Batman but it's not because he is dead.

Originalmente postado por TheOneWhoWons:

I think Bruce and Alfred is death, ♥♥♥♥ is not batman because batman told him to keep blüdhaven safe. what you say about jason is nearly same as battle for cowl. jason is red hood. knightfall protocol is explosion of wayne manor(death of bruce). think, why would alfred asks bruce'' are you sure you want to do this'' and bruce replies''ı got to its the only way to protect them'' this their plan to explode wayne manor and kill themselves. this IS knightfall protocol. In your theory there is no Knightfall protocol. And This is KNIGHTFALL this must be connected to Knightfall story arc. In Knightfall azrael becomes batman. And the game is very suitable for Azrael to become Batman.

[Charlie]

Originalmente postado por DAHFAN1308:

If Bruce wanted to fake his death, I think they would need a little more than 2 seconds to go down to the batcave. And also, I'm not 100% on this, but I think in Origins Alfred said or atleast impied that he would stand right by Bruce no matter what. Fourth, if Bruce became Batman again, I think everyone would just guess exactly what happened. Fifth, why would Batman say goodbye to Catwoman, Nightwing and Gordon if he would just start from scratch? I'm convinced that they are both dead.

That is exactly what Bruce Wayne would want you to think, how could Batman have faked his death when he mansion blew up a few seconds later... This is Bruce Wayne, a highly trained Ninja who can take out 5 guys in a matter of seconds and then disappeear without being seen. We know from the comics that Wayne Manor has loads of secret pathways and bunkers, they wouldn't need to go to the Batcave.

He said his farewells to all his allies because he wants you them to think hs is gone/dead... That way Batman can still be a mystery + He didn't want Robin or Nightwing to bear the burden of wearing the cowl.

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He said his farewells to all his allies because he wants you them to think hs is gone/dead... That way Batman can still be a mystery + He didn't want Robin or Nightwing to bear the burden of wearing the cowl. [/quote]

Dude, rewatch the vid LITERALY 1 second after the door closes explosions occur, there is no way that Batman or especially Alfred could escpae that fast or survive it standing there. Also, I really don't think that batman would use the lethal fear gas, plus I don't think Tim Drake is robin anymore, he's married to Barbara, then I think Nightwing would be a little suspicious if a new batman should up, he would confront him to see whats going on. If its Bruce, he would feel that faking his death was a waste of time. Sorry man its just doesn't make sense that either Bruce or Alfred survived that.

[Charlie]

Originalmente postado por DAHFAN1308:

I think Nightwing would be a little suspicious if a new batman should up, he would confront him to see whats going on. If its Bruce, he would feel that faking his death was a waste of time. Sorry man its just doesn't make sense that either Bruce or Alfred survived that.

The thing is this new Demonic Batman as far as we've seen never attacks people - he just keeps pounding them with Fear Gas until they pass out... Nightwing would just assume the thugs are making stuff up (remember in the beginning everyone thought Batman was just a myth)... Well now he has become a myth again...

I suppose we will find out when future DLC arrives - However Bruce Wayne being Batman has the most evidence and support.

[hooverstein]

you know bruce and alfred did not kill themselves

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Originalmente postado por GhostMotley:

Originalmente postado por DAHFAN1308:

I think Nightwing would be a little suspicious if a new batman should up, he would confront him to see whats going on. If its Bruce, he would feel that faking his death was a waste of time. Sorry man its just doesn't make sense that either Bruce or Alfred survived that.

The thing is this new Demonic Batman as far as we've seen never attacks people - he just keeps pounding them with Fear Gas until they pass out... Nightwing would just assume the thugs are making stuff up (remember in the beginning everyone thought Batman was just a myth)... Well now he has become a myth again...

I suppose we will find out when future DLC arrives - However Bruce Wayne being Batman has the most evidence and support.

Thats my point, its a fear gas attack, we have no idea what happened. As far as we know red hood could have shot up those two thugs, but we just do not know, remember this is just MY theory, I personally think we will never get any answers for what happened. Even if they make DLC, how will they market it without spoiling the enitre game to either those who don't have new-consoles or can't get the game to work on PC.

[baka.cdaz]

When i read this topic first time i wonder why they censor Nightwing's name.
I Think you type his name as F*uckin Grayson or something like that lol.

but look again his name is ♥♥♥♥ Grayson oh I get it lol.

[baka.cdaz]

BTW I think new Batman is Jason Todd too.
The name of this game is Batman :Arkham Knight and at the end of final battle he save batman then vanish into thin air. And no one ever talk about him anymore

It's make no sense for charactor that has the name on game cover to end his roll like this.
It's more make sense if he become the new Batman who was Arkham Knight.