Batman™: Arkham Knight

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Bite Jul 30, 2015 @ 7:25pm
Question in regards to a major spoiler about the infected people
I haven't been able to play Batman AK since it was pulled from Steam, however I myself didn't mind spoilers as much and have already caught on with the most important story bits through the game, there is something that keeps annoying me however, it's about Joker's blood in Batman.

So, in AC Batman finds the cure and has it shipped to all the hospitals in Gotham, everyone then gets cured from Joker's blood except for those few people that went unrecorded. My problem is why the hell is Batman infected if he took the cure too? how can he possibly be infected if he literally drank the cure during the last seconds of AC? Why did the cure worked for all the other hundred of infected but not for Batman?

Any clarity in this regard would be much apreciated.
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Sgt. Pepper Jul 30, 2015 @ 7:38pm 
Another plot-hole to this game's story.
The Killer Jul 30, 2015 @ 7:52pm 
Spoilers ahead spoiler ahead, divert to lower fifth.

Batman wasn't the only one who stayed infected, their were the other select few. The other 4 were locked in the Panessa studios. Batman was cured from dying within few after being infected with Joker's blood but developed some sort of multiple personality disease. Everyone took the cure but the "5" of em developed a completely separate disease that was turning/turned them into Joker.

They had to bring Joker into the game somehow and rather than resurrecting him, they took this route. I liked it better this way than undoing all the work from previous two games and just resurrecting him with the Lazarus pit or something.
Bite Jul 30, 2015 @ 8:19pm 
Originally posted by The Killer:
Spoilers ahead spoiler ahead, divert to lower fifth.

Batman wasn't the only one who stayed infected, their were the other select few. The other 4 were locked in the Panessa studios. Batman was cured from dying within few after being infected with Joker's blood but developed some sort of multiple personality disease. Everyone took the cure but the "5" of em developed a completely separate disease that was turning/turned them into Joker.


Yes, that I understand, but the 4 guys who were infected and locked in the studio were there because they got the blood transfussions but due to several reasons those transfussions were unrecorded, hence they didn't get the cure that Batman shipped to the hospitals, but Batman did take the cure, so how can he be in the same boat as the 4 who didn't take the cure? (As such, how could they even be alive if Batman was about to die the same night he was infected?)



Originally posted by Sgt. Pepper:
Another plot-hole to this game's story.

Seems to be the most likely scenario, much like a forced way to get the Joker in.
MATT SUNSTON Jul 30, 2015 @ 9:32pm 
Here's the best theory I've come across.

Freeze's cure from Arkham City was made to counteract the effects of the Titan poisoning affecting Batman and the Joker. Batman was cured when he drank his half at the end of Arkham City, but because this is a world of comic book science, Arkham Knight plays up the idea that Joker's blood itself has an inherent effect on those who receive a transfusion.

Harley Quinn's Revenge established that Robin was successful in administering the cure to the people that Joker infected via blood samples, but the four new infectees in Arkham Knight went unchecked for too long, allowing their infection to develop further.
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Presumably, after they were kidnapped and brought to the film studios for treatment, Batman administered Freeze's cure, only to find that Joker's blood was still affecting them, which is shown to manifest in the form of the 'Jokerization' the infectees go through.

This explanation seems to cover the idea quite well within the acceptable bounds of comic book nonsense, rather than just needing people to scream "PLOT HOLE!!!!!" at it.
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Bite Jul 30, 2015 @ 9:46pm 
Originally posted by Gabe "The Glue Man" DeGrossi:

This explanation seems to cover the idea quite well within the acceptable bounds of comic book nonsense, rather than just needing people to scream "PLOT HOLE!!!!!" at it.

Still seems a little too far fetched though, and I still can't quite wrap my head about that inherent effect thing, because, well, all the other hundreds of people who recieved his blood seemed to be fine, only those 4 (and Batman) had the ugly side effects.

It could work being that Batman gave them the cure after kidnapping them, but still seems far fetched given that Batman (One of the strongest men to ever live in the DC comics) was on the brink of death with only a few hours of that blood running through his body, I just find it hard to believe that 4 regular human beings survived so long with that blood that, again, almost killed Batman in one night.

I mean, if that theory would be true, then still in theory, there should be thousands of possible Joker candidates runnig freely in Gotham...I just don't really buy it I guess, it doesn't seem to work from any angle I try to take it from. I still thank you a lot for the answer too.
Last edited by Bite; Jul 30, 2015 @ 9:46pm
wyatt1048 Jul 30, 2015 @ 11:36pm 
My theory is that Batman was cured, totally, and seeing the Joker 'taking over' is simply the effect of the fear gas. Batman's symptoms are different from the 4 infected that we see - they don't report any hallucinations, and rather that the Joker possesing them, it seems their personalities are moved towards the Joker's brand of insanity. It seems like two different diseases to me.

Of course, that's got a few plot holes, like why Batman's eyes changed etc. but the main story has holes too.
Bite Jul 31, 2015 @ 7:45am 
Originally posted by wyatt1048:
My theory is that Batman was cured, totally, and seeing the Joker 'taking over' is simply the effect of the fear gas. Batman's symptoms are different from the 4 infected that we see - they don't report any hallucinations, and rather that the Joker possesing them, it seems their personalities are moved towards the Joker's brand of insanity. It seems like two different diseases to me.

Of course, that's got a few plot holes, like why Batman's eyes changed etc. but the main story has holes too.

I would believe that, but in Arkham City, the last of Joker's messages clearly asks Batman if he's having hallucinations yet, so going by that I would think that the Joker already knew the effects of his blood. (Also, I find it hard to believe since Batman did have that fifth cell ready for himself, so he naturally put himself at the same level as the other infected).
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