Batman™: Arkham Knight

Batman™: Arkham Knight

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The Bat Girl Dlc Story and Lore is wrong! Spoilers!
So after seeing the first few mintues of gameplay, no comment about that however
For a game that is supposed to be a prequel to Arkham Asylum Why is Tim Drake Robin here?

After Reading the Arkham Comics which have been cannonised by Dc which states that Tim was not robin at the time before Asylum as well as him wearing his arkham knight outfit which makes no sense as he

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Shaved His head to enter City during arkham city, yet for some reason he has a shaved head in the prequel?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVEetvBVQRE

This video clarifys what im saying
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Who in their right mind read current DC or even worse current marvel and takes what anything any of them have to offer as cannon?
I haven't seen it yet, but it's probably either ♥♥♥♥ Grayson or Jason Todd (depending on how long before AA it is). If it looks like Tim it's probably just due to reused character model.
Tyjan 13. Juli 2015 um 20:53 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von RIOT|Stalkermaster:
So after seeing the first few mintues of gameplay, no comment about that however
For a game that is supposed to be a prequel to Arkham Asylum Why is Tim Drake Robin here?

After Reading the Arkham Comics which have been cannonised by Dc which states that Tim was not robin at the time before Asylum as well as him wearing his arkham knight outfit which makes no sense as he

------Spoilers-----




Shaved His head to enter City during arkham city, yet for some reason he has a shaved head in the prequel?

Because these games are set in their own universe, while taking inspirations from different comics and elements from the Arkham comic series (Such as Joker's backstory being from The Killing Joke, or posters of The Gray Ghost from the Animated Series being everywhere).

It's all its own storyline, which is why Tim prefers a shaved head and is here.
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Who in their right mind read current DC or even worse current marvel and takes what anything any of them have to offer as cannon?
Because I can and I want to
I've been having a short haircut for 10 years now. How dare I have the same haircut for 10 years !

Just wanted to throw that out there so you can see how ridiculous it sounds of Robin having the same haircut ^^
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tonkinese:
Who in their right mind read current DC or even worse current marvel and takes what anything any of them have to offer as cannon?
Because I can and I want to

then you like joss whedon and many "writers" *cough* *cough* are exactly what is wrong with the industry
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von RIOT|Stalkermaster:
Because I can and I want to

then you like joss whedon and many "writers" *cough* *cough* are exactly what is wrong with the industry
Ha
Im talking about how the game and the comics dont match up, its got nothing to do with the "writers" but more with how Wb are lazy with this dlc
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tonkinese:

then you like joss whedon and many "writers" *cough* *cough* are exactly what is wrong with the industry
Ha
I talking about how the game and the comics dont match up, its got nothing to do with the "writers" but more with how Wb are lazy with this dlc

you crack me little buddy
WHEN is the Batgirl DLC set? We know there is a gap of 7 years between Arkham Origins and Arkham Asylum. Total of 10 years between Origins and Knight. Is it possible that there's a time skip or flashback during the DLC also? What if it starts out with Tim Drake in the present, and then flashes back to Barbara as Batgirl?

Without answering these questions we don't know if it breaks the lore or not.
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von RIOT|Stalkermaster:
Ha
I talking about how the game and the comics dont match up, its got nothing to do with the "writers" but more with how Wb are lazy with this dlc

you crack me little buddy
Seriously? If you want to debate the comics and how good or bad they are, then by all means do that in another thread. Calling me a child because Im merely pointing out the laziness in the Batgirl dlc is idiodic at best
Tyjan 13. Juli 2015 um 21:06 
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tonkinese:

then you like joss whedon and many "writers" *cough* *cough* are exactly what is wrong with the industry
Ha
Im talking about how the game and the comics dont match up, its got nothing to do with the "writers" but more with how Wb are lazy with this dlc

Did you...read my reply above, or are you only replying to people you know will argue back?
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WHEN is the Batgirl DLC set? We know there is a gap of 7 years between Arkham Origins and Arkham Asylum. Total of 10 years between Origins and Knight. Is it possible that there's a time skip or flashback during the DLC also? What if it starts out with Tim Drake in the present, and then flashes back to Barbara as Batgirl?

Without answering these questions we don't know if it breaks the lore or not.
The start of the Dlc Ie. 5 mins (which is all I have watched) Has Bat girl and Robin entering the place which I wont spoil because of the other thread. Barbara calls Robin "Tim" while they even show Tim in his arkham knight outfit with her entering the Place
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tyjan:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von RIOT|Stalkermaster:
So after seeing the first few mintues of gameplay, no comment about that however
For a game that is supposed to be a prequel to Arkham Asylum Why is Tim Drake Robin here?

After Reading the Arkham Comics which have been cannonised by Dc which states that Tim was not robin at the time before Asylum as well as him wearing his arkham knight outfit which makes no sense as he

------Spoilers-----




Shaved His head to enter City during arkham city, yet for some reason he has a shaved head in the prequel?

Because these games are set in their own universe, while taking inspirations from different comics and elements from the Arkham comic series (Such as Joker's backstory being from The Killing Joke, or posters of The Gray Ghost from the Animated Series being everywhere).

It's all its own storyline, which is why Tim prefers a shaved head and is here.
Yes it may have its own storyline but whats the point if the game constantly blows everything up? Its like the Dlc is set in its Own Universe rather then the arkham Universe. I Apoligise for not replying earlier but I was busy playing the game :P

Heres a video to clarify this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVEetvBVQRE
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von RIOT|Stalkermaster:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Saerydoth:
WHEN is the Batgirl DLC set? We know there is a gap of 7 years between Arkham Origins and Arkham Asylum. Total of 10 years between Origins and Knight. Is it possible that there's a time skip or flashback during the DLC also? What if it starts out with Tim Drake in the present, and then flashes back to Barbara as Batgirl?

Without answering these questions we don't know if it breaks the lore or not.
The start of the Dlc Ie. 5 mins (which is all I have watched) Has Bat girl and Robin entering the place which I wont spoil because of the other thread. Barbara calls Robin "Tim" while they even show Tim in his arkham knight outfit with her entering the Place

Ok, so it takes place before Arkham Asylum, but when Tim was Robin. That's still possible. After all, Jason was already "dead" before Arhkam Asylum...we don't know how long before.

It would help if they made an official timeline but Tim being Robin doesn't automatically break the lore.
Tyjan 13. Juli 2015 um 21:12 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von RIOT|Stalkermaster:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tyjan:

Because these games are set in their own universe, while taking inspirations from different comics and elements from the Arkham comic series (Such as Joker's backstory being from The Killing Joke, or posters of The Gray Ghost from the Animated Series being everywhere).

It's all its own storyline, which is why Tim prefers a shaved head and is here.
Yes it may have its own storyline but whats the point if the game constantly blows everything up? Its like the Dlc is set in its Own Universe rather then the arkham Universe. I Apoligise for not replying earlier but I was busy playing the game :P

No worries on that then :D

The Arkham games do a lot to establish itself as it's own universe through the Gotham Stories and even integrated with the game itself. If you read through them you'll see dozens of references and stories taken directly from multiple sources and tying them all together rather than stick with just one, which is actually a really interesting way to take Batman's universe in a different direction by applying a rich history that many people who read the comics are aware of.

Everything is tied together very nicely, so I doubt that the DLC just has Tim because it's Tim. Yes, it might be ruining some of the comics lore, but it's only indirectly based off of them while telling it's own story, so it's not doing anything to ruin the Arkham game's lore at all.

Best explination for that, in my opinion.
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