Batman™: Arkham Knight

Batman™: Arkham Knight

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Brent Jul 1, 2015 @ 11:11am
Arkham Knight running on below spec video card.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8DRVoJIDek

I was reading about how outrageous the system requirements are for this game and decided to check my specs to see if I could play it. Not something I usually do as, thus far, I haven’t met a game I wanted to play that my system couldn’t run. Looking at the specs, I see that my video card is too wimpy. Verified on CanyouRUNit that my video card wasn’t going to cut it. Sad day.
Long story short, I ended up with a copy and, after viewing some horrible looking gameplay vids, decided to try it out for a good laugh. My results were... unexpected.
Now, I should mention that this video is my playing with defaults set by the game on initial startup and that I have made no setting or file modifications. This is what it installed as it installed it.

I’m running:
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2300 CPU @ 2.80GHz
Video Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460
Dedicated Memory 1.0 GB
System Memory 13 GB

It doesn’t matter if you think my gameplay/graphics look terrible or fantastic. What you need to take away is that this game is fully playable for me, with little to no performance problems, below their insisted minimum specs, something that the developers have been throwing a tantrum about for cards better than mine. I have not experienced a single loading during a high speed chase and any tearing or framerate drop has been barely noticeable.

I’m not saying customers don’t have a leg to stand on. Quite the opposite. This should piss people off more and further justifies the outrage.

I have a few questions for the development team:
Why is a 2GB card your published minimum spec, when clearly it is giving similar performance on a 1GB?
Why are you insisting that it is the customer’s unreasonable expectations of their own hardware causing these issues?
And the BIG one: Why is a video card you claim is below spec performing almost as well as most higher-end card using your minimum recommended specs?
Shouldn’t there be a noticeable difference in the settings between my card and one meeting your (obviously bogus) minimum specs?
According to you, I shouldn’t even be able to load this game. If I can play it when I’m not meeting your minimums, why can’t other people play it looking amazing?

The point here is a resounding “WTF??” for the development team.
Seriously, WTF?
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Snow (Banned) Jul 1, 2015 @ 11:14am 
Running on my gtx 750 pretty fine as well. I think that one is even lower than yours.

Glad people can run it okayish on hardware like yours and mine. Still, really want them to fix the damn game.
Snow (Banned) Jul 1, 2015 @ 11:20am 
Originally posted by crippknottick:
Originally posted by Scarecrow:
Running on my gtx 750 pretty fine as well. I think that one is even lower than yours.

Glad people can run it okayish on hardware like yours and mine. Still, really want them to fix the damn game.
The GTX 750 is just a notch higher than the GTX 460 (as far as say a GPU heirarchy via Tom's Hardware), but really is almost as good as a GTX 660, and performs better in some statistics.

Oh really ? That are some good news for me, I always thought of my gtx 750 2gb as some POS honestly.
Mountain Man Jul 1, 2015 @ 11:33am 
That's pretty darn good for such relatively low-end hardware. I think sometimes publishers and developers exaggerate the minimum specs to overcome poor optimization and to make PC gamers think a game really takes advantage of high-end hardware.
Bones Jul 1, 2015 @ 12:03pm 
Full system specs:
i73820 3.6ghz, 16gb ram, GTX660 2gb


yeah i was very worried when the system req changed since i only have a 2gb GTX660, and the game runs very well for me.. Of course not in all its full graphic glory. I run in 1080p resolution, normal textures, low shadows, and normal detail. I keep the gameworks rain effects on, but leave the enhanced light beams off, and the other two options are greyed out, so my card must not support them at all so can't use those. Wierd thing is they say you need a 3gb card to run normal textures, but my 2gb card seems to run them fine.

As far as game performance goes, im not sure what my in game frame rate average is (cant depend on the performance test since its results do not reflect what performance will be in the actual game.) But since I left the 30fps cap on, that its running at a pretty consistant 30fps as i do not get any stutters or noticable frame rate drops during normal play. The only time i noticed any stuttering is when i summon the batmobile and it powerslides up to me, sometimes i'd get a bit of stuttering when batman is jumping into the cockpit. Or sometimes if i spun the camera around batman really fast, it would get some noticable stuttering. I would also get the texture streaming issues where they would take a few seconds to load and would look muddy on some objects.

Then that first small patch came out, and i started to play after it, and noticed no differences, still had the same stuttering during the same situations, and still had some texture streaming issues. Turned off motion blur since the patch now allows it to be turned off without crashing the game, and performance was the same.. Then (Spoilers!) i got far enough to when Gotham was filled with "pollen" which hurt my frame rate a bit. But i played on..

Then i got to the part in the main story (spoilers) where you have to prevent soilders from breaking into Gotham PD.. Got really frustraited (kept getting killed lol.) and couldent save the mission for later and do other missions, since i already started it. So i decided to just start the game over. And amazingly all the issues i had are basically gone. No more stutters from the batrmobile. No more stutters while spinning the camera. Not positive about the texture stream issues, as i have not noticed it since starting over, but ill have to keep a closer look for it.

But for some reason after the patch, starting a fresh game seems to have fixed alot of issues. So the game plays nice and smooth for me.. Am i running it at a constant 60fps like most people complain they can't? No.. I'm still capped at 30. But its smooth, and looks and plays great. And im enjoying the heck out of it. Although i wish there where less tank battles, but thats a gameplay design complaint, not a performance one lol.

So does that mean i think the game is fine and has no issues, definatly not, my buddy has the game too, has basically the same system build as mine, only he has a much more powerful video card (don't remember exactaly which one, but its a 900 series card, i think a 970) and his game looks and plays like crap, iv actually watch him play it, and the performance is horrible, and we tried everything in the settings, put everything on low, left the fps cap on, turned it off, turned off motion blur, ect, nothing helped.. Yet my "bare minimum spec" video card plays the game nicely.. Just plain wierd. If i can play this game on my 660 with what basically equals to "medium" settings, based on what settings are available, then people with top of the line systems should be crushing this game without breaking a sweat.

So im definatly looking forward to the optimization updates to come out to improve the games performance for me even further, hopefully ill be able to bump the graphic settings up even higher once they do.. I do plan to upgrade my video card eventually, within the next few months, just can't afford to do it now. But honestly i wanna wait to see what the optimization patches do first anyway.. Just for curiosity.
Last edited by Bones; Jul 1, 2015 @ 12:23pm
Broken Noah Jul 1, 2015 @ 12:10pm 
Hey, just wondering, how long did you play the game in one session?
Brent Jul 1, 2015 @ 12:16pm 
Originally posted by Broken Noah:
Hey, just wondering, how long did you play the game in one session?

Never counted. Probably 2 hours or so. Never had a crash, if that is what you're wondering.
Bones Jul 1, 2015 @ 12:22pm 
longest session iv played non stop is a little over 4 hours. Also I once played the game for about an hour, then got distracted and had to leave the room and it was left paused for over an hour, then came back and played for another hour or so, performance stayed stable.. I did the memory check thing too with the game, and after around 2 hours of playing, the memory usage was at a little over 6.5gbs and basically stayed there, didn't go up or down. So i must not be getting the memory leak issue alot of people have (iv seen the videos, its definatly exsists) but for some reason does not happen on my system. Game has also never actually crashed for me.
Last edited by Bones; Jul 1, 2015 @ 12:31pm
boxman Jul 1, 2015 @ 12:56pm 
It runs better on my system as well than many other high end ones, even though I have a ancient phenom 2 945 cpu. My theory is that alot of the issues with "micro" stuttering has to do with system ram. Most people these days have 8gigs of ram, while I have 16gigs. The game itself seems to eat up most ram which probably leads to swapping.
Broken Noah Jul 1, 2015 @ 1:05pm 
Originally posted by Brent:
Originally posted by Broken Noah:
Hey, just wondering, how long did you play the game in one session?

Never counted. Probably 2 hours or so. Never had a crash, if that is what you're wondering.
Wasn't expecting a specific length, just a ballpark estimate. Anyway not crashing but stuttering. I haven't experienced any crashes but after playing for a while, the performance just drops dramatically. I haven't tried just playing the game with the default option and I may try it just to see.
marrow61 Apr 29, 2017 @ 11:37am 
Old thread bump. We just got AK on sale here, but it refuses to run on our (admittedly, very old) GTS-250. We can get it to run on a 610 (though very laggy), but were wondering how OP got it to force run on a 460? AK gives us the ol' "doesn't support this version of DirectX" bit (even though we have Windows 10 and DX 11.1 on one system and 12 on the other).

Any way to force-run it?
Stefan Apr 29, 2017 @ 11:43am 
Originally posted by marrow61:
Old thread bump. We just got AK on sale here, but it refuses to run on our (admittedly, very old) GTS-250. We can get it to run on a 610 (though very laggy), but were wondering how OP got it to force run on a 460? AK gives us the ol' "doesn't support this version of DirectX" bit (even though we have Windows 10 and DX 11.1 on one system and 12 on the other).

Any way to force-run it?

The Game requires Directx 11. The GTS-250 only supports Directx10. Thats why it cant run the Game. Since the Video they released patches which improved performance on systems which are within the requirements and made the performance worser on systems which does not meet the requirements.
It does not matter that you got DX 11.1 and 12 on your system when you got no GPU which supports it.
I recommend: Upgrade your GPU or refund the Game.
Last edited by Stefan; Apr 29, 2017 @ 11:57am
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