Arkham City or Arkham Knight?

[leif gt persson]

Which game is in your opinion better - Arkham City or Arkham Knight?

Overall I would probably say Arkham City. But Arkham Knight has some really strong parts aswell. But here are a few things that I think each game does better than the other. (Probably missed something)

Arkham City:
- Better Main missions
- No forced Batmobile...
- Catwomen Free Roam (Although I have a mod for that in AK)
- Better Boss Fights

Arkham Knight:
- Story
- Combat
- Atmosphere
- Better AR Challenges

[anarchy]

City, the story is simply way better, actually designed as a story not just hours of keep fighting the military and batmobile rubbish

[Dimasick]

yeah, City is much better for me, even while it doesn't have such great atmosphere. I really hate Knight's fighting system, the've added many great moves, but it feels like batman fights himself uncontrollably kicking everyones assеs. Never had that feeling in City, batman fights targets that i choose. And Knight feels very fast, like "go here and there and never stop". Arkham City was really fun to explore.
btw, these blind enemies that can't see you from 5 meters...In Arkham City, batman wold be killed already. Knight is so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ easy, made for mоrons, only challenge is it's many bugs.

[Stormspark]

Knight, by a mile. City is the weakest entry in the series. The ONLY thing it improved vs Asylum was the combat, everything else was worse. Origins was WAY better than City in every way.

I rate the games as Knight > Asylum = Origins >> City

That's not saying City is a bad game...it's just the worst (relatively speaking) of the Arkham series.

[leif gt persson]

Originally posted by Saerydoth:

Knight, by a mile. City is the weakest entry in the series. The ONLY thing it improved vs Asylum was the combat, everything else was worse. Origins was WAY better than City in every way.

I rate the games as Knight > Asylum = Origins >> City

That's not saying City is a bad game...it's just the worst (relatively speaking) of the Arkham series.

Wow, I definitely don't agree :p Arkham City is probably the best in the series in my opinion. It's between AC and AK. My order of the games is:

1. Arkham City/AK
2. Arkham Knight/AC
3.Arkham Asylum
4. Arkham Origins

I love them all though.

[nygus85]

obydwie gry sa super ale w arkham knight grafika jest przepiekna

[Camera Lucida]

AC had the best story in franchise imo and AK had the worst one. *sigh* joker blood disesase... its so stupid even for comic book standards...

[Stormspark]

Originally posted by teambigboss:

AC had the best story in franchise imo and AK had the worst one. *sigh* joker blood disesase... its so stupid even for comic book standards...

How is it stupid by comic book standards? It's taken almost directly from Batman Beyond.

As far as best story in the Arkham franchise...that goes to Origins. Origins also had the best boss battles and the 2nd best atmosphere (best atmosphere goes to Asylum). Origins is one of the most underrated games I've ever played. The only reason I rate it the same as Asylum instead of better is because of how awesome and groundbreaking Asylum was when it came out, along with the amazing environments. (Asylum is the weakest entry in the series when it comes to the combat, but you have to remember that it was the pioneer of the combat system we have today so it gets some leeway.)

City improved the combat from Asylum. But everything else is worse. Story is worse. Environment/atmosphere is worse. Don't get me wrong though. I'm not saying City is a bad game. It's still a great game and better than 95% of the other stuff out there. But I'd rate it 8/10 where I'd give Asylum and Origins 9.5/10 and Knight 9.8/10.

[Crimsomrider]

Arkham City. It towers above Arkham Knight in every way except gameplay. Not to mention this whole "city under attack / Batman unmasked / main villain reveal" is done much better and more discretly in Arkham City. Not to mention that Arkham City done it first.

Arkham Knight to me is more of a Dark Knight Rises game that we never got, with all the tanks, militia and stuff like that.

[Ned Stark]

Arkham City. For Story, Music (in most cases is in Bak CTRL+C from previous batman arkham like City), Side Missions and non Season Pass and yea OPTIMALIZATION. In Batman Arkham Knight is good Batmobile for a while when you are HYPE but then thousands of batmobile battles and non combat battle will destroy that HYPE. Then there is a gameplay which is at one side perfect (they did good job as new combos Entertainment Takedown and more, then in Predator (Fear takedown) but on other side they ♥♥♥♥♥♥ some things and thats targeting target (you need to click W or A , S, D to go to directon whre you want strike and in previous Batman Arkham you just needed to turn mouse to direction where you want strike) and in predator like get under floor gate (you need to click CTRL+Middle mouse button and before it was ctrl+space), that was another thing on what I needed long time to accustom. Story is good but as I said about Music (CTRL+C) they are only few songs which I remembered because they were new. And I think Story would get better if they would do better Music. Then another thing is that High settings in Gotham looks same as on Low settings. In Arkham City there is HUGE difference in graphics, if you have it on low or high but yeah this is not fault of RockSteady but Iron Galaxy. As well Optimalization. I have GTX 970, I5 4460 and 8GB RAM (and Windows 10) and I have stuttering in Batmobile and it destroying my playing. Personally I hope Rocksteady will make new Batman to make REAL final Batman which would win again Game of The Year. Sorry for some faults in text I was writing quickly.

[cannikin73]

I used to say City was my favorite, but I'm having a hard time going back and playing now. Knight is my ultimate Batman simulator.

[Roast Goose]

Knight bugs me in many ways, but going back to City or Asylum will really highlight how much Knight improved things in many ways.

Knight's animation is significantly better. The combat does have some issues, but then again City isn't perfect, either. Knight's combat is quite a bit faster, but so are the enemies in some ways; the thugs with knives and sword wielders actually seem like they're trying to stab you this time. The counter icons appear much earlier on enemies which may be easier in some ways, but it makes sense.

I'm torn with the Batmobile, because I do find it fun to drive and quite like the tank sections. It just doesn't fit with Batman. If Rocksteady made a game centred on agile tanks like this and really polished it up it could be great fun.

The boss battles are the main way City trumps Knight. Rocksteady's issue in Asylum was loving the freeflow combat too much and being scared to deviate from it. City got out of this rut, particularly with Mr Freeze. Sadly, they fell back into bad habits with Knight, this time hiding behind the Batmobile.

I don't like Origins, but one thing that game proved was that one-on-one freeflow combat is possible. Deathstroke was great fun to fight. RS just doesn't seem to have the guts to try it.

[Ned Stark]

Originally posted by Roast Goose:

Knight bugs me in many ways, but going back to City or Asylum will really highlight how much Knight improved things in many ways.

Knight's animation is significantly better. The combat does have some issues, but then again City isn't perfect, either. Knight's combat is quite a bit faster, but so are the enemies in some ways; the thugs with knives and sword wielders actually seem like they're trying to stab you this time. The counter icons appear much earlier on enemies which may be easier in some ways, but it makes sense.

I'm torn with the Batmobile, because I do find it fun to drive and quite like the tank sections. It just doesn't fit with Batman. If Rocksteady made a game centred on agile tanks like this and really polished it up it could be great fun.

The boss battles are the main way City trumps Knight. Rocksteady's issue in Asylum was loving the freeflow combat too much and being scared to deviate from it. City got out of this rut, particularly with Mr Freeze. Sadly, they fell back into bad habits with Knight, this time hiding behind the Batmobile.

I don't like Origins, but one thing that game proved was that one-on-one freeflow combat is possible. Deathstroke was great fun to fight. RS just doesn't seem to have the guts to try it.

Sadly agree.

[Frannz]

Still think the concise story of Asylum makes it a more entertaining and engaging game.

I think City offers the best gameplay of the 3 (or 4 if you count origins), better fighting, better puzzles and variety.

But the story is all over the place. Too many plot twists and enemies. It's like two great stories put together with a bunch of side-mission around. If they focused on Strange's story or Joker's, we could have a (maybe shorter) more engaging and better developed universe.


Knight just falls into the "more is better" logic.
The plot is bad, villains are wasted and rushed, more than on City, they were merely tools for some missions, there is almost no development or sense of danger from them (even though scarecrow's plan is great). It just tries to add more menace, more enemies and more twists than City, and just looses itself quite fast.

Graphics and mechanics (on batman) are great, but the batmobile is just silly.

First, it's a tank, not a batmobile. The fact that the tank and batman share the same space on the splash screen already shows that he is not the only focus in the game.

Everything about the tank just doesn't feel batman. It's ridiculous and repetitive, it's there for the sake of being there, to show that this game offers more than City.

[twenty1aboutdis]

Arkham Knight > Arkham Origins > Arkham City > Arkham Asylum.

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