Batman™: Arkham Knight

Batman™: Arkham Knight

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Diabolicus Oct 22, 2016 @ 4:46am
True Ending = I don't understand
Someone explain the ending?
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flood Oct 22, 2016 @ 4:50am 
Batmans identity was revealed, so he activated the knightfall protical, and killed himself :D
Diabolicus Oct 22, 2016 @ 4:56am 
Originally posted by Ainsley Harriot:
Batmans identity was revealed, so he activated the knightfall protical, and killed himself :D

I do not think Bruce Wayne is dead, because if it were true, Bruce Alfred does die, then it suggests that staged his death, and then Bruce will not become Batman and Robin and Nightwing will think.

But I do not understand the last part where it is the monster-bat.
Dootslayer Oct 22, 2016 @ 5:40am 
Originally posted by Ainsley Harriot:
Batmans identity was revealed, so he activated the knightfall protical, and killed himself :D

Bruce Wayne is against killing, he wouldn't even kill the psychos he is fighting against, why would he kill his buttler who is also his only father figure? He faked his death but i think the figure at the end might be Azrael or hallucinations because of the fear toxin that remained in the air after the cloudburst, maybe.
Last edited by Dootslayer; Oct 22, 2016 @ 5:40am
Diabolicus Oct 22, 2016 @ 7:53am 
Originally posted by Carlos Mendez:
Originally posted by Ainsley Harriot:
Batmans identity was revealed, so he activated the knightfall protical, and killed himself :D

Bruce Wayne is against killing, he wouldn't even kill the psychos he is fighting against, why would he kill his buttler who is also his only father figure? He faked his death but i think the figure at the end might be Azrael or hallucinations because of the fear toxin that remained in the air after the cloudburst, maybe.

Yeah, is sure 100% is fake death, my interpretations are these:

1) Fake death for Bruce, and therefore must be "retired", and then Arkham Knight, Nightwing and Robin, defend Gotham without Batman.

2) Always fake death Bruce, and Bruce will not have a real life in the sense that will remain forever Batman.

3) Arkham Knight = The Next Batman

4) Which is a psychological thing now of all the bandits in the sense that when they are afraid, you "active" gas of the Scarecrow, and then the bat monster does not exist and there is only in their heads, and then Batman will remain forever their terror.
Dootslayer Oct 22, 2016 @ 9:27am 
Originally posted by Yaz:
1) Fake death for Bruce, and therefore must be "retired", and then Arkham Knight, Nightwing and Robin, defend Gotham without Batman.


Jason Todd becomes a vigilante yes, also Robin is the successor of batman, nightwing is tasked with protecting Blüdhaven

Originally posted by Yaz:
2) Always fake death Bruce, and Bruce will not have a real life in the sense that will remain forever Batman.


I'm not sure that i understand that statement

Originally posted by Yaz:
3) Arkham Knight = The Next Batman


Sort of, the arkham knight becomes the red hood, a vigillante who is ok with killing villains, and is a last resort ally for the bat family.

Originally posted by Yaz:
4) Which is a psychological thing now of all the bandits in the sense that when they are afraid, you "active" gas of the Scarecrow, and then the bat monster does not exist and there is only in their heads, and then Batman will remain forever their terror.


There is a chance that some toxin remained and they hallucinated because of that, but the most likely option is that it's Azrael in the knightfall batsuit using some of Crane's toxin as his asset against crime.
Mr.Shafto Oct 22, 2016 @ 10:07am 
Bruce faked his death so with Bruce Wayne being "dead" Batman is "dead" too, he then uses Scarecrow's equipment to enstill a new fear in a "new" Batman.
Frag Maniac Oct 22, 2016 @ 1:56pm 
I agree the death of Bruce Wayne is faked, and it even makes sense that the fiery wraith bat is Azrael, especially since Azrael's calling sign was a flaming bat.

If they are going to continue this at all though, it only makes sense that Bruce Wayne will come out of hiding/retirement to take down Azrael after he escapes.

Yeah I know that means Batman then becomes a known vigilante, but he's already known anyway. Or, since their games tend to take place in scenarios where civvies are vacant, it could be only a few criminals will see and talk about Batman being alive, but no one will believe them.

This of course also means Batman will have to hand villains off to Robin, Nightwing, or some one else, instead of delivering them to GCPD personally. All things considered though, a version of Batman that is covert to public eye is totally possible.

As a twist, he may end up making it look like Azrael is taking out all the villains, and save him for last, which would also make talk of Batman being alive less believable. It could even last another trilogy, not taking him out until the end of the last one. This is what I think he meant by Gotham needs a scarier vigilante.

I seriously doubt Batman will use Scarecrow's fear toxin, however I could see Azrael being manipulated into doing so. As I said, Batman will more likely make the apprehension of the villains look like the work of Azrael. Whether or not the public accepts such justice (Azrael taking down foes) may determine whether Batman chooses to reveal himself when taking down Azrael.
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ShikenNuggets Oct 22, 2016 @ 3:38pm 
I think Bruce Wayne faked his death and continued his mission as Batman by using fear toxin.
Stormspark Oct 22, 2016 @ 4:56pm 
Originally posted by Carlos Mendez:
Originally posted by Ainsley Harriot:
Batmans identity was revealed, so he activated the knightfall protical, and killed himself :D

Bruce Wayne is against killing, he wouldn't even kill the psychos he is fighting against, why would he kill his buttler who is also his only father figure? He faked his death but i think the figure at the end might be Azrael or hallucinations because of the fear toxin that remained in the air after the cloudburst, maybe.
It's not Azrael. It doesn't fit his pattern. Also, Azrael is busy dealing with the Order. It's not Arkham Knight, because Jason becomes Red Hood following the events of the game. It's not Nightwing because he's still Nightwing. It's not Robin because he's still Robin.

Alfred was standing right beside Bruce when the manor blew. Alfred asked him if he was sure if he wanted to do it, and he said yes, it's the only way to protect them. This means the entire thing was planned (it's the Knightfall protocol). While Bruce would be willing to kill himself, he would NOT kill Alfred for any reason. This means they had a failsafe of some sort that would allow both Bruce and Alfred to escape the explosion. He faked his death. The common interpretation of the last scene is that Bruce (who is now Batman permanently, since he "killed" his alter ego) is weaponizing Scarecrow's fear toxin to use against criminals. Batman considers the Batman persona to be his true self, while the Bruce Wayne persona is a mask. He basically just liberated himself from the responsibilities and life of Bruce and is now free to be Batman full time.
Last edited by Stormspark; Oct 22, 2016 @ 4:56pm
Originally posted by Saerydoth:
Batman considers the Batman persona to be his true self, while the Bruce Wayne persona is a mask. He basically just liberated himself from the responsibilities and life of Bruce and is now free to be Batman full time.

Ironically, if he's seen, everybody will from now on not see Batman but Bruce Wayne.
Diabolicus Oct 23, 2016 @ 12:27am 
Originally posted by r_chettiyar7:
Azrael becomes Batman. Bruce Wayne is dead.

:steamfacepalm:
halbermensch999 Oct 23, 2016 @ 3:28am 
It's clear that Batman was not enough anymore...so he needs a rebirth.

When you first time go to rescue Poison Ivy look with care on the reaction on how the tough guy looks at Batman once he has breathed in the fear gas. He's absolutely terrified, and that's what Batman needs to use and does use, he looks positively demonic.

Heck even the normal henchmen are not always so scared when Batman wants to interrogate them, they even try to punch Batman.

Batman rebirthered can and does make the bad guys terrified once again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi-JjPfEjxU 0.44 and a few seconds forward.
Last edited by halbermensch999; Oct 23, 2016 @ 3:33am
Diabolicus Oct 23, 2016 @ 3:56am 
Originally posted by halbermensch999:
It's clear that Batman was not enough anymore...so he needs a rebirth.

When you first time go to rescue Poison Ivy look with care on the reaction on how the tough guy looks at Batman once he has breathed in the fear gas. He's absolutely terrified, and that's what Batman needs to use and does use, he looks positively demonic.

Heck even the normal henchmen are not always so scared when Batman wants to interrogate them, they even try to punch Batman.

Batman rebirthered can and does make the bad guys terrified once again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi-JjPfEjxU 0.44 and a few seconds forward.

I don't know, this true ending don't explain anything. :/
halbermensch999 Oct 23, 2016 @ 4:03am 
It explains everything. The clues are there all the way through the game, Batman is not enough, he needs a to re-invent himself. And he does. This will also free himself from getting his many allies in trouble because they worked with Batman.

Again and again it is said in the game, in the last video by Gordon twice that fear is a needed component to keep the crooks in line.

We don't get to play as the nightmare batman, but who kows we might in the next game. Rocksteady said that the story of Batman will be over for them, they won't be making more in the Arkham series, however Nightmare Batman is not "normal" Batman.
Dootslayer Oct 23, 2016 @ 4:37am 
Originally posted by halbermensch999:
It explains everything. The clues are there all the way through the game, Batman is not enough, he needs a to re-invent himself. And he does. This will also free himself from getting his many allies in trouble because they worked with Batman.

Again and again it is said in the game, in the last video by Gordon twice that fear is a needed component to keep the crooks in line.

We don't get to play as the nightmare batman, but who kows we might in the next game. Rocksteady said that the story of Batman will be over for them, they won't be making more in the Arkham series, however Nightmare Batman is not "normal" Batman.

Personally i wouldn't mind a red hood or deathstroke game instead. Both are great characters and one of them is stronger, faster, smarter than batman and is also willing to get his hands dirty. Well both of them are willing but deathstroke is op lore wise.
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