Do you see Gotham?

[SHREDDER]

As you know Gotham is the current Batma tv show, It started on 2014 and it show us how batman and his famous enemies Joker Catwoman Pwnguin Mad Hatter Riddler e.t.c becoem who they are. Any of you are watching iit? And enjoy it? I like it a lot! You? Iti s currently at season 3 episode 5. Evry Monday is new episode.

[Frag Maniac]

Yes, I like it a lot, and I like how they interpret the characters their own way, especially Penguin. I didn't like their non canon created character Fish Mooney at first, even though I like Jada Pinket-Smith, but lately I think her character's gotten a lot more interesting.

It's very well written and well acted, with some nice touches to make NY look like Gotham. I also watched the, as far as I recall, hour long TV special showing how the sets were made, with interviews of the actors, and that was great.

You might be able to find it on Google if you haven't seen it. I think it came out just before the series launched. I did a quick search just now and couldn't find it.

[ShikenNuggets]

I think I watched half of the first season, but I couldn't really get into it. I felt like it was constantly hitting me over the head with references (Edward Nigma holding a question mark coffee cup and saying "I love a good riddle", Selina insisting on everyone calling her "cat", like we ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ get it). I also don't like how many of the characters are portrayed, most notably Penguin and Riddler. Penguin's not supposed to be insane, he's just a mob boss with a very apparent Napolean complex, and Riddler seems so shy and awkward, I don't know how he's supposed to become the narcassistic deathtrap-making piece of ♥♥♥♥ he's supposed to be.

[Willow]

Origineel geplaatst door ShikenNuggets:

I don't know how he's supposed to become the narcassistic deathtrap-making piece of ♥♥♥♥ he's supposed to be.

I wont spoil anything, but keep watching...

[Frag Maniac]

Origineel geplaatst door NoraValkyrieStar:

Origineel geplaatst door ShikenNuggets:

I don't know how he's supposed to become the narcassistic deathtrap-making piece of ♥♥♥♥ he's supposed to be.

I wont spoil anything, but keep watching...

Exactly, pretty much all of the complaints mentioned have become non issues as the series progressed.

[ShikenNuggets]

Origineel geplaatst door NoraValkyrieStar:

I wont spoil anything, but keep watching...

No thanks. I got bored of the series, I don't intend to continue watching something I don't like.

Origineel geplaatst door Frag Maniac:

Exactly, pretty much all of the complaints mentioned have become non issues as the series progressed.

Even if they are fixed, they shouldn't have been issues in the first place.

[Frag Maniac]

Origineel geplaatst door ShikenNuggets:

Even if they are fixed, they shouldn't have been issues in the first place.

Your loss for being impatient, and the worst part is, sometimes series with great potential get canned because of it. Fortunately this one has enough of a following for that not to happen, and deservedly so.

[mhenry_101381]

Origineel geplaatst door ShikenNuggets:

I think I watched half of the first season, but I couldn't really get into it. I felt like it was constantly hitting me over the head with references (Edward Nigma holding a question mark coffee cup and saying "I love a good riddle", Selina insisting on everyone calling her "cat", like we ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ get it). I also don't like how many of the characters are portrayed, most notably Penguin and Riddler. Penguin's not supposed to be insane, he's just a mob boss with a very apparent Napolean complex, and Riddler seems so shy and awkward, I don't know how he's supposed to become the narcassistic deathtrap-making piece of ♥♥♥♥ he's supposed to be.

Watch mid-late season 2.

[ShikenNuggets]

Origineel geplaatst door Frag Maniac:

Your loss for being impatient

It's not impatience, it's boredom. I wasn't going to keep watching a boring show because it might get better. Their loss for not having the show start out good.

Origineel geplaatst door Frag Maniac:

sometimes series with great potential get canned because of it.

Potential is meaningless. Everything has "potential". Execution is what's important.

Origineel geplaatst door mhenry_101381:

Watch mid-late season 2.

As I've said, I don't intend to continue watching a show I didn't enjoy.

[mhenry_101381]

Origineel geplaatst door ShikenNuggets:

Origineel geplaatst door Frag Maniac:

Your loss for being impatient

It's not impatience, it's boredom. I wasn't going to keep watching a boring show because it might get better. Their loss for not having the show start out good.

Origineel geplaatst door Frag Maniac:

sometimes series with great potential get canned because of it.

Potential is meaningless. Everything has "potential". Execution is what's important.

Origineel geplaatst door mhenry_101381:

Watch mid-late season 2.

As I've said, I don't intend to continue watching a show I didn't enjoy.

"Joker" shows up starting episode 17 in season 1. No show starts off great. They arrive good enough to stave off cancellation for the first half season to full season. You have to start off with a back story for everyone. Just stick with it. It's worth it. You can't show up with established superheroes and villians and no clue how they got there. Season two is the real rise of the villians. You can skip to season two, but a lot of the story is lost.

[Frag Maniac]

Origineel geplaatst door ShikenNuggets:

It's not impatience, it's boredom. I wasn't going to keep watching a boring show because it might get better. Their loss for not having the show start out good.

As mentioned, it takes it's own path on character interpretation, and the development of them takes time. If you're that impatient, I imagine there's tons of shows you write off out of boredom before even giving them a fair chance. Right now it rates 83% even on RottenTomatoes, which is about the toughest critic site around. I find it strange you have no problem spending time conveying your dislike on forums, yet can't even sit through an hr long TV show. Clearly your priorities are strange.

Potential is meaningless. Everything has "potential". Execution is what's important.

You'll never understand how important potential is if you only look at what you see as bad. Again, your loss.

[ejandelange]

I like it...the others who dislike the show can pleased themselves with some trash like The Walking Dead...

[Frag Maniac]

Origineel geplaatst door ejandelange:

...the others who dislike the show can pleased themselves with some trash like The Walking Dead...

LOL, clearly we have some people here that don't know good shows when they see them.

[ShikenNuggets]

Origineel geplaatst door mhenry_101381:

No show starts off great.

Really? Because I've seen plenty of shows that did start off great.

Origineel geplaatst door mhenry_101381:

You can skip to season two, but a lot of the story is lost.

I'd rather not. I've probably forgotten most of the plot by now, so even picking up where I left off would probably be a bit of a challenge. And, as you said, a lot of the story will be lost.

Origineel geplaatst door Frag Maniac:

If you're that impatient, I imagine there's tons of shows you write off out of boredom before even giving them a fair chance.

As I said, I watched about halfway through the first season. I gave it more than a fair chance. It was boring, and nothing was really happening. There was no guarantee that the show was ever going to actually get better (and at the time, it seemed like it was just going to get worse), so I gave up on it. Even if it has gotten better, I doubt I would be able to get back into it.

Origineel geplaatst door Frag Maniac:

I find it strange you have no problem spending time conveying your dislike on forums, yet can't even sit through an hr long TV show. Clearly your priorities are strange.

Why should I waste time watching a show I don't like when I can watch other shows that I do like (or doing other things I enjoy, like discussing things on forums, playing games I like, etc)? I understand you defending the show, but I don't see why it seems so absurd to you that I don't enjoy watching it, and hence don't want to waste my time on it.

Origineel geplaatst door Frag Maniac:

You'll never understand how important potential is if you only look at what you see as bad.

I'm not really sure what this is supposed to mean. If something is bad, it doesn't matter how much potential it has. Honestly, potential is completely overrated, almost any idea can work if executed properly. For example, look at Batman. He's a crazy billionaire that dresses up like a bat and fights crime. That sounds absurd, and it is, but the idea's been executed very well.

Origineel geplaatst door Frag Maniac:

LOL, clearly we have some people here that don't know good shows when they see them.

Yeah, because opinions totally aren't a thing... [/sarcasm]

[Frag Maniac]

Origineel geplaatst door ShikenNuggets:

I'm not really sure what this is supposed to mean.

You yourself said you sat through half the first season. No one sits through that many episodes if everything in the show looks bad to them. So yeah, I mean you were only seeing what you thought of as bad, and blocking out the good. The only other explanation would be you regularly waste your time.

Opinions ARE a thing, but when you take THAT long to make them, then insist the series is trash, it's a confused looking opinion. It's like those times when you look at a certain female and can't decide whether she's pretty or not.

The show was good right off the bat for many, for some an acquired taste, but most I've met whom don't like it at all, didn't take a whole half a season to make up their mind about it.

[ShikenNuggets]

Origineel geplaatst door Frag Maniac:

No one sits through that many episodes if everything in the show looks bad to them.

I didn't say everything about it was bad. There were some enjoyable elements and I was hoping it would get better, but after a while there started to be more bad than good and it didn't seem like it was going to get any better, so I gave up on it.