Does This Story Make Sense?

[jeremyj621]

In the real world (or even one in comic books), if someone like Scarecrow threatened to unleash a chemical weapon in a city, there would be an evacuation for civilian safety, but if that same criminal brought in a private militia, the country would respond with its own military since that would effectively be a declaration of war. The country wouldn't rely on a vigilante to single-handedly restore peace. This fact makes this story the most unbelievable in the "Arkhamverse" series.

[jeremyj621]

Holografix a écrit :

jeremyj621 a écrit :

Another interesting point regarding the militia: the militia was assembled by Arkham Knight in my understanding, not Scarecrow, so why would Arkham Knight relinquish control over his militia to Scarecrow? It seems to me AK should have been the one in charge, not Scarecrow, which would have made Batman's first encounter with him at Ace Chemicals his last. Since AK should have been in charge, Scarecrow shouldn't have been able to override the controls of AK's helicopter when he had a lock on Batman, especially since "Dumb-Bat" was just standing there facing off against an armed military helicopter.

Come on OP. These are not salient points. Asserting that Arkham Knight should have done this or that without delving into the psychology of the character is an exercise in pure imagination. There is a story based reason why Scarecrow keeps the Arkham Knight in check. There's also a story based reason why Arkham Knight cooperates with Scarecrow instead of simply displacing him in an "imaginary hierarchy of super-villains."

A good rule of thumb to remember is: Understanding must come before critique.

No, I understand Arkham Knight's character completely. You don't agree with my critique which is fine, you're entitled to your opinion, but to say someone's critique is not "salient" is insulting. I'm simply pointing out what could have happened. You don't have to insult me for it!

[jeremyj621]

JonoAMano a écrit :

When Batman's at Ace Chemicals, Arkham Knight makes an announcement over the comms channel insinuating similar deterrent potential. That's why the military doesn't intervene.

You're right about this. I replayed the scene at Ace Chemicals and missed this. It's easy to tune out comm chatter when you're focusing on other things like trying to find the workers.

[🖤Lyra🖤]

jeremyj621 a écrit :

Holografix a écrit :

Come on OP. These are not salient points. Asserting that Arkham Knight should have done this or that without delving into the psychology of the character is an exercise in pure imagination. There is a story based reason why Scarecrow keeps the Arkham Knight in check. There's also a story based reason why Arkham Knight cooperates with Scarecrow instead of simply displacing him in an "imaginary hierarchy of super-villains."

A good rule of thumb to remember is: Understanding must come before critique.

No, I understand Arkham Knight's character completely. You don't agree with my critique which is fine, you're entitled to your opinion, but to say someone's critique is not "salient" is insulting. I say the points you make here about "story-based" reasons are not "salient."

OP the Arkham knight works with scarecrow to break Batman mentally and to kill Batman the Arkham knight has a good reason for why he hates Batman which you learn later in the game and scarecrow just wants to see Batman reputation be destroyed that he isn’t this unstoppable hero that he does have a weakness that the both of them try to exploit the entire story is about Batman fighting his fears and failures throughout the game you learn in Batman VR why Batman doesn’t want robin or knightwing around in Arkham knight Because Batman is losing his mind having nightmares over losing himself and others he cares about scare crow and the Arkham knight working together makes sense they both want to break Batman mentally and physically for personal reasons. Who better villains to use for the final game then the two that make Batman lose his mind and the other remind him of his failure as Batman.

Please write a better story for Arkham knight if you have one Becuase personally I think having these two villains work together to break Batman was a great choice as batman does break mentally multiple times in the game we get to see a side of batman that we never saw in the previous arkham games.

[Holografix]

jeremyj621 a écrit :

Holografix a écrit :

Come on OP. These are not salient points. Asserting that Arkham Knight should have done this or that without delving into the psychology of the character is an exercise in pure imagination. There is a story based reason why Scarecrow keeps the Arkham Knight in check. There's also a story based reason why Arkham Knight cooperates with Scarecrow instead of simply displacing him in an "imaginary hierarchy of super-villains."

A good rule of thumb to remember is: Understanding must come before critique.

No, I understand Arkham Knight's character completely. You don't agree with my critique which is fine, you're entitled to your opinion, but to say someone's critique is not "salient" is insulting. I'm simply pointing out what could have happened. You don't have to insult me for it!

I didn't insult you, I only focused on your comment. Don't take umbrage. I see that you already chose an answer to this thread, so I won't bother with this anymore. My comment may seem harsh but I assure you I didn't mean anything by it.

[Devsman]

This game has built-in plot hole resistance.

"Wait that doesn't make sense. Must have been a hallucination."

[(V)(;,,;)(V)]

this and the titans show are mostly the same story but the show is more fleshed out and a better telling of the story without batman in it. season 2 is this story, and touches on most of the holes the games creates. season 1 is the titans back story mostly revolving around raven and her connection to her father.

worth watching and a new season should be coming soon also.

[zorocancor]

(V)(,,)(V) a écrit :

this and the titans show are mostly the same story but the show is more fleshed out and a better telling of the story without batman in it. season 2 is this story, and touches on most of the holes the games creates. season 1 is the titans back story mostly revolving around raven and her connection to her father.

worth watching and a new season should be coming soon also.

Titans show is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

[Fire Angel]

jeremyj621 a écrit :

The country wouldn't rely on a vigilante to single-handedly restore peace.

It would if the vigilante is Batman

[Stormspark]

MASTAN a écrit :

And Batman's cape cannot maintain such gliding.

Believe it or not, it would be theoretically possible for Batman's cape to work. But it would have to have about a 12 foot wingspan (effectively making it a hang glider).

[finnegan]

Color me surprised, a comic book story that would not make sense in the real world? News to me!

[Igris]

Nobody cares man, this is a game where you got aliens and sh*t. Anyone who questions realism in video games/movies should rethink their whole approach to them.

Where was the army in Infinity War/Endgame when Thanos came?

[jeremyj621]

BigMommyMilkers a écrit :

Where was the army in Infinity War/Endgame when Thanos came?

To answer this question, the government did get involved in the conflict with SHIELD, a government agency assembled to deal with special threats such as alien attacks, and the Avengers are a government-sanctioned group unlike the Justice League. This of course has nothing to do with the topic at hand, just thought I'd answer it.

[Igris]

jeremyj621 a écrit :

BigMommyMilkers a écrit :

Where was the army in Infinity War/Endgame when Thanos came?

To answer this question, the government did get involved in the conflict with SHIELD, a government agency assembled to deal with special threats such as alien attacks, and the Avengers are a government-sanctioned group unlike the Justice League. This of course has nothing to do with the topic at hand, just thought I'd answer it.

But it has, super hero movies and games are both unrealistic af, so I see no point of your thread. Who gives a damn about realism in a BATMAN GAME?

[jeremyj621]

Also, going back to my OP, it occurred to me that the events in AK take place over a single night, a fact which I forgot about when posting this discussion, so the government at that point would have been deliberating (as typical bureaucrats) how to respond to the situation. Batman saves them from having to respond with either military or nuclear attacks. Could a lone person actually do all that in one night? In reality, highly unlikely, but in a game, movie, or comic, yes.

[halbermensch999]

It's not so impossible. You could also include in the story that the country is closer to a civil war, in which case the rulers of DC does not want to help a state that wants to secede anyway.