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Is it just me or does Arkham City look better than this game?
Not saying this game looks bad, but I feel like Arkham City has more impressive visuals then this game. Just feels like Arkham Knight has a slightly different art style to it.
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Buck Jan 16, 2017 @ 10:18am 
It's a matter of opinion, which you are welcome to, but give some qualification. Why do you feel that AC's visuals are "more impressive". What is it about the art style that "feels different"?
Ezekiel Jan 16, 2017 @ 10:26am 
Originally posted by Buck:
It's a matter of opinion, which you are welcome to, but give some qualification. Why do you feel that AC's visuals are "more impressive". What is it about the art style that "feels different"?
City looks cartoonier. I prefer the more realistic character models of Knight, but the city of City. Knight has too many neon lights and weird looking playground structures to be Gotham or a real city. I think they both fail to capture the look of Gotham, but City is closer.
Last edited by Ezekiel; Jan 16, 2017 @ 10:26am
Nosurrender440 Jan 16, 2017 @ 10:39am 
See.... thats the bizarre thing. I feel like Knight is cartoonier looking. I just feel like the thugs are more detailed in City.
Buck Jan 16, 2017 @ 11:24am 
Originally posted by Ezekiel:
City looks cartoonier. I prefer the more realistic character models of Knight, but the city of City.

I don't really know what you mean by "Cartoonier", but this is really more down to simple advances in technology more than anything else.

Knight has too many neon lights and weird looking playground structures to be Gotham or a real city. I think they both fail to capture the look of Gotham, but City is closer.

I can't really think of any neon lights anywhere, and don't know what you mean by "playground structures" either. I personally think all of the games look great, but AK is clearly a more detailed world. However, taht comes down more to improved texture quality and post processing effects more than actual environmental complexity. If you could see the flat untextured base world you'd be surprised as just how little detail there actually is.
Ezekiel Jan 16, 2017 @ 11:56am 
Originally posted by Buck:
Originally posted by Ezekiel:
City looks cartoonier. I prefer the more realistic character models of Knight, but the city of City.

I don't really know what you mean by "Cartoonier", but this is really more down to simple advances in technology more than anything else.
it's also the art style. You don't see it?

Toon Catwoman:
http://i.imgur.com/MsdK4QM.jpg

New Catwoman:
http://i.imgur.com/pYEK61n.jpg

Toon Batman:
http://i.imgur.com/uUdlngR.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/GEdXhWk.jpg

New Batman:
http://i.imgur.com/N5f3VYS.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qjp2bfO.jpg

It's not just the graphics. The bodies are less exaggerated.
Originally posted by Buck:
I can't really think of any neon lights anywhere, and don't know what you mean by "playground structures" either. I personally think all of the games look great, but AK is clearly a more detailed world. However, taht comes down more to improved texture quality and post processing effects more than actual environmental complexity. If you could see the flat untextured base world you'd be surprised as just how little detail there actually is.
I mean that it's full of colorful lights, modern buildings, craploads of grappable platforms and confusing street plans. It’s not old, dense and vertical enough to be Gotham City. This doesn't look like Gotham:

http://i.imgur.com/WDDAW2c.jpg
Last edited by Ezekiel; Jan 16, 2017 @ 12:15pm
Bourbon Kid Jan 16, 2017 @ 12:05pm 
Originally posted by Nosurrender:
Not saying this game looks bad, but I feel like Arkham City has more impressive visuals then this game. Just feels like Arkham Knight has a slightly different art style to it.

Personal opinion and it's good that there are different ones. For me, Asylum has the best immersive visuals and setting.

Originally posted by Ezekiel:
Originally posted by Buck:
It's a matter of opinion, which you are welcome to, but give some qualification. Why do you feel that AC's visuals are "more impressive". What is it about the art style that "feels different"?
City looks cartoonier. I prefer the more realistic character models of Knight, but the city of City. Knight has too many neon lights and weird looking playground structures to be Gotham or a real city. I think they both fail to capture the look of Gotham, but City is closer.

AK doesn't fail capturing the look of Gotham. A dense built city, urban buildings and streets, mixed with gothic skyscrapers and gargoyles decorating them. Outdated technology with the sidenote "give that thing a good beat and it will work" (like grandpa said), power lightens up because of an overloaded or malfuntioned capacitator. The streets aren't well liten up but with lightflooding sources here and there. There are tons of details, more in AC, capturing the immersion of Gotham.
Allard Jan 16, 2017 @ 12:08pm 
Originally posted by Ezekiel:
Originally posted by Buck:

I don't really know what you mean by "Cartoonier", but this is really more down to simple advances in technology more than anything else.
it's also the art style. You don't see it?

Toon Catwoman:
http://i.imgur.com/MsdK4QM.jpg

New Catwoman:
http://i.imgur.com/pYEK61n.jpg

Toon Batman:
http://i.imgur.com/uUdlngR.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/GEdXhWk.jpg

New Batman:
http://i.imgur.com/N5f3VYS.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qjp2bfO.jpg

It's not just the graphics. The bodies are less exaggerated. .
Wow. Arkham CIty DOES look better.
TechNoirJacRabbit Jan 16, 2017 @ 12:55pm 
Well in all fairness, Arkham City came out when the graphical textures had been around for a while, Arkham Knight has come out rather early in the current gen graphics lifespan.
Buck Jan 16, 2017 @ 1:18pm 
Originally posted by Ezekiel:
You don't see it?

No, because as I already said, the art styles are ~PROBABLY~ influenced far more by technical capabilities and limitations far more than anything else. What was "top notch" in 2011 when AC was released in obsolete garbage today.

It's not just the graphics. The bodies are less exaggerated.

The AK models are CLEARLY far more details and defined. You'd need to be blind to not see that, but that doesn't change the fact that a preference for one over the other is still nothing more than opinion.

I mean that it's full of colorful lights
So were AA, AC and AO.

modern buildings

Not really. The whole series takes place only over the course of roughly a decade. Arkham Aslyum's architecture was more "classic" purely because the Asylum itself is old. That has nothing to do with anything else but creating a style that fit the setting.

craploads of grappable platform

I don't really see what this has to do with the art itself. That again, was a technical limitation.

and confusing street plans

Have you ever even BEEN to a real city? They ARE a confusing mish mash of street plans, and that's because MOST cities evolved over a very long period of time (100's of years) to become what they are today.

Gotham is It’s not old,

Yes it is, according to fictional history it was founded in 1635. ITts ridiculously old..

dense and vertical enough to be Gotham City.

opinion.

This doesn't look like Gotham:

http://i.imgur.com/WDDAW2c.jpg

Clearly the game designers disagree with you. Yes, there are always going to be certain elements needed to make it "Feel" like Gotham, but you need to remember that this is a FICTIONAL city. (based on the ACTUAL New York, including borrowing it's nickname!).

That said, if i remember correctly, that screenshot is on Miagani Island which is CLEARLY new construction that's still going on at the time the game takes place.
Frag Maniac Jan 16, 2017 @ 1:46pm 
I can't see how anyone would think City looks better than Knight. Even on lower settings, Knight looks better. It's largely due to more sophisticated lighting and color tones of textures. In real life, faces don't look as brightly colored as in City, and they also lack the subtle shadows of Knight, which gives them less realistic contours. Plus it seems silly to complain about neon lights in a large city.
Last edited by Frag Maniac; Jan 17, 2017 @ 11:59am
damianvc31 Jan 16, 2017 @ 1:49pm 
Originally posted by RT:
Originally posted by Ezekiel:
it's also the art style. You don't see it?

Toon Catwoman:
http://i.imgur.com/MsdK4QM.jpg

New Catwoman:
http://i.imgur.com/pYEK61n.jpg

Toon Batman:
http://i.imgur.com/uUdlngR.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/GEdXhWk.jpg

New Batman:
http://i.imgur.com/N5f3VYS.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qjp2bfO.jpg

It's not just the graphics. The bodies are less exaggerated. .
Wow. Arkham CIty DOES look better.
Are you ironic arent you?

AK looks better, you might like AC graphics but thats a different matter
Ezekiel Jan 16, 2017 @ 2:14pm 
Originally posted by RT:
Originally posted by Ezekiel:
it's also the art style. You don't see it?

Toon Catwoman:
http://i.imgur.com/MsdK4QM.jpg

New Catwoman:
http://i.imgur.com/pYEK61n.jpg

Toon Batman:
http://i.imgur.com/uUdlngR.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/GEdXhWk.jpg

New Batman:
http://i.imgur.com/N5f3VYS.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qjp2bfO.jpg

It's not just the graphics. The bodies are less exaggerated. .
Wow. Arkham CIty DOES look better.
I can understand why you would think that, but I find the cartoonier art style more jarring in the highly detailed environments.
Last edited by Ezekiel; Jan 16, 2017 @ 2:15pm
Arkham99 Jan 17, 2017 @ 12:29am 
Originally posted by Buck:
based on the ACTUAL New York, including borrowing it's nickname!)
Up here in Canada we refer to New York as 'The Big Apple', never heard of it being referenced as 'Gotham' before... While the Christopher Nolan movies certainly look like New York (although I believe that 'Rises' was filmed in Pittsburgh), the Arkham cityscape looks to me more like a Far Eastern Metropolis to be honest, especially while viewing it from Arkham Island... Arkham City's environment perhaps resembles Manhattan's Lower East Side but I'm just not seeing the games as "based on the ACTUAL New York"...:-) :penguinsymbol:
Buck Jan 17, 2017 @ 8:11am 
Originally posted by Arkham99:
Up here in Canada we refer to New York as 'The Big Apple', never heard of it being referenced as 'Gotham' before...

And down here in 'Muricaland we call Canada "Canadia", but I prefer "Canuckland".

That's the most famous, but there's no shortage of nicknames for NYC/Manhattan. "The Capital of the World", "The City that Never sleeps", "The City so nice they named it twice", "Empire city", "Gotham". Most of us NY Natives just call it "The City" Though.

it's definitely NOT a coincidence that Gotham is heavily based off the older sections of NYC (which includes, but is NOT limited to Manhattan Island)

But don't take my word for it, ask google, that ♥♥♥♥♥ knows everything :)

While the Christopher Nolan movies certainly look like New York (although I believe that 'Rises' was filmed in Pittsburgh),

Nolan is known for his prefer for practical effects (that whole plane hijacking scene was completely practical. they really did that crap.) so that's more of a result of practual location purposes more than anything else.

the Arkham cityscape looks to me more like a Far Eastern Metropolis to be honest, especially while viewing it from Arkham Island... Arkham City's environment perhaps resembles Manhattan's Lower East Side but I'm just not seeing the games as "based on the ACTUAL New York"...:-) :penguinsymbol:

If by "Far Eastern" You really mean East Coast America, that's not an accident, the fictional Gotham City is located in New Jersey not terribly far from New York or Metropolis (which moves around depending on who's writing the story. In the new movies Metropolis and Gotham are sister cities located across the Bay from each other, much like the real life San Francisco and Oakland).
Last edited by Buck; Jan 17, 2017 @ 8:12am
sidewinder_G Jan 17, 2017 @ 10:27am 
Thing is, AC is a walled off part of Gotham's slums. Since it is smaller, buidlings of importance tend to be closer to each other and more frequent. Solomon Wayne's Courthouse, Maxie Zeus' cazino, the old Iceberg Lounge, Ace Chemicals, Wonder Tower, Tyger HQ, Old Gotham, Μonarch Theatre, Crime Alley and tons of previous businesses that once belonged to supervillains (like Strange's previous psychological cabinet or Ivy's store) are all there but AC is small.

Gotham City also has buildings of importance but because it's 4 times as big, they are not as frequent and are more spread out. So spread out, you can actually spot both AC and Wayne Manor in the distance in AK. So it makes sense for AC to be more visually impressive since it's smaller.

That being said, I love Chinatown and the movie studios in AK.
Last edited by sidewinder_G; Jan 17, 2017 @ 10:33am
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