Batman™: Arkham Knight

Batman™: Arkham Knight

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Is Joker Just A Figment (SPOILER)
Of my imagination? Like is he dead? He keeps popping up ahaha. Love this game so far. Works beautifully on my 2 titan x pascals at 4k. Everything max and the Nvidia stuff is all turned on and I get a constant 60fps.
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Frag Maniac Jan 19, 2017 @ 11:54pm 
He's just a ghost, as obviously he died in Arkham City. You probably haven't played through all the way, but later in the game it becomes obvious, even of you haven't played City. Plus even at the beginning you can't even start the game unless you cremate him.
Last edited by Frag Maniac; Jan 19, 2017 @ 11:55pm
Emerald Triangle Jan 20, 2017 @ 12:15am 
Oh lol. Silly me. Totally forgot! Thank you for your reply.
Emerald Triangle Jan 20, 2017 @ 12:25am 
I started this game ages ago when the game was horribly optimized and just quit it for a long time. I should of started fresh, but I continued my game and totally forgot about that beginning.
Buck Jan 20, 2017 @ 8:08am 
Originally posted by Noot Noot:
Is Joker Just A Figment (SPOILER) Of my imagination?

No, he's a figment of Bruce's.

Like is he dead?

Yes. The beginning of the game should have made that extremely clear.

He keeps popping up ahaha.

Yes he does, that silly Joker.

Love this game so far. Works beautifully on my 2 titan x pascals at 4k. Everything max and the Nvidia stuff is all turned on and I get a constant 60fps.

Glad you're enjoying the game but BAK doesn't support SLI so your 2nd Titan is useless here. A single card can run the game with no issues

Originally posted by Frag Maniac:
He's just a ghost

No, he's not. The story straight out explains he's a manifestation of the Titan tainted Joker blood transfusion.
Emerald Triangle Jan 20, 2017 @ 8:33am 
Really!? I thought it did support SLI.
Buck Jan 20, 2017 @ 8:38am 
Originally posted by Noot Noot:
Really!? I thought it did support SLI.

Newp. official support was never released and development dropped some time ago.

That said, it IS possible to "force" SLI AFR (Alternate Frame Rendering) Mode on using the 3rd party NVIDIA inspector utility. Results can vary though.

The other option is to set the 2nd card as the dedicated physx card.
Emerald Triangle Jan 20, 2017 @ 9:16am 
When I set my 2nd card to physx (dedicated) it disables SLI!? Is there a guide? I am interested in doing this. Thank you Buck for your reply.
SillyWalk Jan 20, 2017 @ 11:10am 
Originally posted by Buck:
Like is he dead?

Yes. The beginning of the game should have made that extremely clear.

I haven't read a lot of american comics (in general, not just from batman), but based on what I've seen (and not only in comics, but in movies, tv series and everywhere in general), consisting on never really killing anybody and making them reappear by some exagerated plot twist, I wouldn't have been surprised if the Arkham Knight removed his helmet and "Surprise, Brucey! It was me from the beginning, the Joker! The other Joker you burned was fake!".
Last edited by SillyWalk; Jan 20, 2017 @ 11:11am
Frag Maniac Jan 20, 2017 @ 12:25pm 
Originally posted by Buck:
No, he's not. The story straight out explains he's a manifestation of the Titan tainted Joker blood transfusion.
Which is also part of the crap quality of the story when you think about it. If he were really a hallucination or "manifestation", Batman would obviously not be in total control. Instead most of the game he's his normal, calculating self, even WHILE all these manifestations occur.

So I'll call him a ghost, a haunting of his having died because Batman didn't manage to use the antidote on him. That's a lot more plausible story, especially given Batman's affinity to save even bad people, than what they came up with. They could easily chalk it up to a guilt conscience.

I'll buy that affecting his psyche more than this tainting, which somehow mysteriously doesn't affect his work. They've always showed Batman as either affected by toxins or just fine after recovering. So the constant insertions of Joker, if it's the result of tainting, doesn't fit if that's to be the reason.
Last edited by Frag Maniac; Jan 20, 2017 @ 12:31pm
Metophisical Jan 20, 2017 @ 7:33pm 
Originally posted by Frag Maniac:
Originally posted by Buck:
No, he's not. The story straight out explains he's a manifestation of the Titan tainted Joker blood transfusion.
Which is also part of the crap quality of the story when you think about it. If he were really a hallucination or "manifestation", Batman would obviously not be in total control. Instead most of the game he's his normal, calculating self, even WHILE all these manifestations occur.

So I'll call him a ghost, a haunting of his having died because Batman didn't manage to use the antidote on him. That's a lot more plausible story, especially given Batman's affinity to save even bad people, than what they came up with. They could easily chalk it up to a guilt conscience.

I'll buy that affecting his psyche more than this tainting, which somehow mysteriously doesn't affect his work. They've always showed Batman as either affected by toxins or just fine after recovering. So the constant insertions of Joker, if it's the result of tainting, doesn't fit if that's to be the reason.

He's not in total control, the scene when you come across the scarecrow he is hitting way harder, not to mention the fact that his eyes turned ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ green. He's been infected with jokers master plan and slowly turning into the joker the entire game. Scarecrows toxin is accelerating the effect and bringing out what little joker is left in the Batman.
Buck Jan 21, 2017 @ 12:47pm 
Originally posted by SillyWalk:
I haven't read a lot of american comics (in general, not just from batman), but based on what I've seen (and not only in comics, but in movies, tv series and everywhere in general), consisting on never really killing anybody and making them reappear by some exagerated plot twist, I wouldn't have been surprised if the Arkham Knight removed his helmet and "Surprise, Brucey! It was me from the beginning, the Joker! The other Joker you burned was fake!".

That is often true yes, however for the Arkhamverse storyline it's been well stated and confirm that this universe's version fo the Joker is well and truely dead

Originally posted by Frag Maniac:
Which is also part of the crap quality of the story when you think about it.

Why don't you explain it to us.

if he were really a hallucination or "manifestation", Batman would obviously not be in total control. Instead most of the game he's his normal, calculating self, even WHILE all these manifestations occur.

Originally posted by Metophisical:
He's not in total control, the scene when you come across the scarecrow he is hitting way harder, not to mention the fact that his eyes turned ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ green. He's been infected with jokers master plan and slowly turning into the joker the entire game. Scarecrows toxin is accelerating the effect and bringing out what little joker is left in the Batman.

^^^^ Couldn't have said it better myself. The whole game Bruce is fighting the influence as hard as he can. In the end, he wins out by pure force of will, but SEVERAL times throughout the story the Joker influence takes control, esp during the entire "Joker influence is now in control" sequence at the end!

So I'll call him a ghost

You go ahead and do that. Doesn't change the fact that it's not a ghost.

a haunting of his having died because Batman didn't manage to use the antidote on him.

Oh he took the andidote, there just wasn't enough to completely cure him.

That's a lot more plausible story

I really just LOVE when random people with absolutely NO verified professional creative writing credits make such absolute statements online. VERY credible.

Critiquing is one thing, but stuff like this is just...pure hubris.

especially given Batman's affinity to save even bad people, than what they came up with. They could easily chalk it up to a guilt conscience.

Maybe you're new to Batman, but this is one of his biggest defining traits. EVERYTHING he does is motivated by guilt

I'll buy that affecting his psyche more than this tainting, which somehow mysteriously doesn't affect his work.

Except it does. there are numerous examples of this illustrated throughout the game.

They've always showed Batman as either affected by toxins or just fine after recovering. So the constant insertions of Joker, if it's the result of tainting, doesn't fit if that's to be the reason.

It makes total sense, esp since "Joker" flat out TELLS you that the fear toxin is interacting with the Joker infection , bringing him out.
Last edited by Buck; Jan 21, 2017 @ 2:36pm
Rukk Jan 21, 2017 @ 1:26pm 
Originally posted by Noot Noot:
Everything max and the Nvidia stuff is all turned on and I get a constant 60fps.
No, you don't. I have a GTX 1080 and I can't get constant 60fps on 1080p, let alone 4K.


H.U.N.K Jan 22, 2017 @ 2:17am 
"I'll buy that affecting his psyche more than this tainting, which somehow mysteriously doesn't affect his work."

LoL how can you say that bats goes from using a methodical but restrained fighting style to outright trying to kill people in fact I think you can kill people*its been a while since I played but im sure there's one of them reversals that actualy breaks the guys necks and backs you clearly hear the snap wether they die or not is subjective as you can survive from both*but one things for sure is bats doesn't give a crap if they live through it when the titan takes over so im prity sure its altering his whole personality and massively affecting his work.:2016imnotcrying:
Last edited by H.U.N.K; Jan 22, 2017 @ 2:18am
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