Should I buy Arkham Origins before playing Arkham Knight?

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[knightsam311]

if you want to theres like 2 refrences to origins in knight (i think)

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So the story goes Arkham Asylum>City>Knight?

[knightsam311]

im pretty sure origins is canon i cant remember

[WickedRequiem]

Storywise, it goes

Origin > AA > City > Knight

You should get Origin during a sale because it's a great game (I enjoyed it quite a bit....).
But, storywise, it's not really necessary.

[knightsam311]

Origin> Blackgate> City > Knight y everyone forget about blackgate?

[Stormspark]

Yep, just keep in mind Origins takes place like 10 years earlier, so it's a bit different. Batman is younger and tends to take a more direct approach in that game. It's a fun game though.

[AbedsBrother]

You don't have to. There are a few references to Origins in Knight, not many. You'll be fine without playing Origins. That said, I do recommend Origins, it's a good game.

[Buck]

Originally posted by meta:

Should I buy Arkham Origins before playing Arkham Knight?

If you want to, yes.

Originally posted by meta:

So the story goes Arkham Asylum>City>Knight?

No, that's release order, with AO going between AC and AK. TImeline order is AO, AA, AC, AK.

Originally posted by knightsam311:

Origin> Blackgate> City > Knight y everyone forget about blackgate?

Because it's a AO side story and is not considered part of the main series.

There is nothing you NEED from any of the games to play the next one. Each is fantastic and stands on it's own. The combat system however, evolves so this is one major reason why I always suggest playing the games in release order. If you were start with AK and go back to AA you'd hate it because it's combat is so much less robust (but still overall excellent)

[Arkham Obsessed]

The entire Batman Arkham series run, in chronological order:

1. Batman: Arkham Orgins DLC "Initiation"
2. BATMAN: ARKHAM ORGINS
3. Batman: Arkham Orgins DLC "Cold, Cold Heart"
4. BATMAN: ARKHAM ORGINS BLACKGATE
5. Batman: Arkham Knight DLC "A Matter of Family"
6. BATMAN: ARKHAM ASYLUM
7. Batman: Arkham City Challenge Campaign "Black Mask Campaign"
8. BATMAN: ARKHAM CITY
9. Batman: Arkham City DLC "Harley Quinn's Revenge"
10. BATMAN: ARKHAM VR
11. Batman: Arkham Knight DLC "Harley Quinn Story Pack"
12. BATMAN: ARKHAM KNIGHT
13. Batman: Arkham Knight DLC "Red Hood Story Pack"
14. Arkham Knight DLC "Catwoman's Revenge"
15. Arkham Knight DLC "Flip of the Coin"
16. Arkham Knight DLC "GCPD Lockdown"

[Gnidex]

I think yes, but not because of the story. You can play Knight just fine without playing Origins.
I think you should play Origins first is because it is a good game and is cheaper than Knight, so you can start with the cheaper one and wait for a good sale of Knight.

[halbermensch999]

Origins has a good DLC which is why it is worth getting (Cold, cold, heart)

[⛧NecRoBile⛧]

My wife bought the game a few years back for $5, and she wanted her money back. If you're interested in Origins, I figured I'd share with you her review. Some may/may not agree, but read it and decide for yourself.

"Ok, first off I'm going to warn you guys that there are SPOILERS in my review, so if you don't want to know, then don't read. Otherwise, in a nutshell, the game was a huge disappointment and, in my opinion, wasn't even worth 5 bucks. I truly wish I could get a refund.

NOW THE REASONS WHY:

First off, the game is extremely glitchy/bugged, which tells me that the company/developers behind the game put out an unfinished and/or untested product on the market, probably because they were in a hurry to get their money.

The fact that I couldn't even get through the first boss fight (which doesn't even take that long to get to ingame) without experiencing an almost game breaking glitch is just pathetic honestly. The fact that the glitch was SO BAD that the music was disappearing, Killer Croc was turning invisible, and then shortly after that the screen went black is probably some of the worst glitching I've seen in a while. The only fix was for me to have to lower my resolution and FX JUST TO GET THROUGH THE FIGHT. Might I mention that I left my settings the same for the rest of the game and had no problems, and this is a well known bug on the internet forums, some people stating they still couldn't fix it, so I'm one of the lucky ones. This is just one game breaking glitch among PAGES UPON PAGES on internet forums that you should probably take into consideration before even bothering with this crappy game.

Now, I'm a person who owns and has played/beaten the other Arkham games, and I can honestly say that the controls and combat are way slower/stiffer/clunkier than the predecessors. There were times where I was going to pull my hair out because the game would alter my settings without me knowing and would invert the camera angles, or my character would activate a gadget I didn't even have selected which would cost me in a fight.

AND FYI, the company behind the game hasn't bothered to fix these glitches at all and from the sounds of it they've practically abandoned the game by now so there won't BE any fixes unless you want to do the freakin programming yourself. BUT OH WAIT IT GETS BETTER

You can't access the ingame built in console (F10) in the vanilla version of the game xD *facepalm*. Wow. So good luck fixing the game. I'll get back onto this subject in a bit, but lets move onto the next issues.

Second, if you're a batman nerd and know your batman trivia, this game is going to drive you insane, especially on the chronological level. The writing for the game was terrible and in my opinion put a number of the characters in situations or saying certain things that I personally felt was not accurate for their character development. Gordon would NEVER be willing to send his men into a dangerous situation, KNOWING Firefly has the bombs set up and threatened to blow up everyone but the vigilante, simply just to SPITE Batman because "I follow the law and you don't". Batman would not destroy the Gotham christmas tree simply to be a jerk to a petty insignificant criminal for no necessary/logical reason, especially if he's just starting out as the vigilante and trying to send a message for people to NOT BE JERKS ANYMORE, what a concept. Batman would not simply let Penguin get away because he locked the door, especially considering the WHOLE freaking game has Batman asking Alfred to unlock doors for him. Guess he couldn't be bothered to open one more door. Batman would not simply let Black Mask get away simply because he was fighting an assassin. The moment Batman would get the antidote, he'd be on Black Mask faster than you could say salsaverde. I could go on and on, but you get the idea. Yet later, after Joker is arrested, they play off like Batman's GOT to find Bane and finish arresting him. Oh, so you NEED to finish the job with Bane but who cares about Penguin and Black Mask right?

ALso, let me point out that there was hype for this game having a new villain created for it. This villain is called Anarchy, and from what I gathered, he's basically like the Punisher or an extremist, etc. etc. They play off in the beginning of the game when you beat penguin that he's gonna be this big pain for Batman, and it got me thinking that maybe Anarchy was the joker or something, whatever we'll find out eventually right? NOPE. Turns out that I still don't know much about Anarchy because HE'S NOT EVEN CONNECTED TO THE MAIN STORYLINE AT ALL, HE'S A FREAKIN SIDE QUESTLINE. A side questline which I will never finish because I have no desire to play this game anymore. Lovely.

Now keep in mind that because I was so annoyed with this game, I hardly did any of the side quests at all. I managed to beat the main storyline in (according to steam) 11.6 hours. Honestly, even though the story modes in the other games weren't too much better, at least the game was fun enough to make it seem like it had good replay value and fun to engage, while this game leaves much to be desired.

The actual storyline, for up till Joker gets arrested, actually seemed like there was potential. It kinda had me going for a moment, wondering what WAS going to happen. But after the Joker gets arrested, the story becomes a mess where for some reason Batman HAS to find Bane over everyone else, finds out that Bane somehow knows his secret identity, he temporarily kills alfred, and then for whatever reason goes to Blackgate prison to join up with Joker JUST to play some stupid mind game with heartmoniters and trying to force Batman to kill someone, ALL OF THIS MESS seemingly just to give meaning/purpose to the use of Electrocutionors gloves, which might I add is one of many devices they give Batman in a PREQUEL that he doesn't have in the SEQUELS, gee great to know the staff behind this crap game REALLY cares about continuity and staying true to the true origins of batman *note the sarcasm*."

[sidewinder_G]

Story wise, you don't need AO at all. Even gameplay wise it is in my opinion the worst of the 3. While the games stand on their own, the story woven throughout is one that has a definitive ending only in Arkham Knight.

Play RS' trilogy in the order the games were released is my humble suggestion.