STAR WARS™ Knights of the Old Republic™ II: The Sith Lords™

STAR WARS™ Knights of the Old Republic™ II: The Sith Lords™

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Stoinker666 2015 年 5 月 22 日 下午 11:55
Playing dark side and saving the Jedi?
Just beat the game as Dark Side and I was realy f*cking disappointed that I was forced to kill each Jedi master. No options to spare them, just douchey "get ready to die" options.

But I like playing a bad ass, dark force using character and turning his companions into dark jedi, but why does this force you to kill the jedi? It's the whole point of a story driven game with decisions.

Same goes for the Mira/Hanharr thing. Don't get me wrong, wookies are awesome, saved them from slavery with my DS character in KOTOR1, wich evened out my alingment bar for a while. But I hated that raging pice of carpet from the very first second I saw him, and everythig he did from then on until the arena scene made me hate him even more and them I'm forced to have him on my team because I play DS? Luckily I found a mod for that.

Regarding the jedi, I spared the one on Nar Shaddaa (first planet i visited), only to kill him on Dantooine in the end, and had no other choice but killing all the others.

Sucks, because I did absoltely not wan't to kill them, except Atris (can you even spare her?).

This basically ruined the game for me. Or am I missing something here?
And yes, I know about the restored content mod.
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Hassat Hunter 2015 年 5 月 23 日 上午 3:29 
You can actually save them all.

1) Onderon; Depends on your choice of leader
2) Nar Shaddaa; As you know
3) Dantooine; Depends on your choice of leadership. If DS Vrook might attack you on the settlers too however if you pick the wrong dialogue options, but it's possible to be DS and spare him.
4) Atris; Yes, you can spare her as well (and she gets really chatty at that :))
psycmaster421 2015 年 5 月 23 日 上午 5:13 
As far as sparing any of the Jedi Masters go...I'm not really sure you can save ALL of them if you go DS. I know instead of killing Vrook on Dantooine, you could have the bounty hunters who captured him in the Crystal Caves sell him to the Exchange instead of killing. I suppose you could just be DS aligned and choose the LS paths on each planet (siding with Talia on Onderon, not killing Kai-El when you have the chance on Nar Shaddaa, and not allying with the mercenaries on Dantooine) to save them, but in the end I think it results in an immediate Alignment shift (instead of being totally DS, and you automatically are switched to the Gray area) when you come back to Dantooine after going to all the other planets.

I agree with you on the Hanharr situation; as tough as he is and as cool as it might feel to have the Chewbacca-esque character, Mira is definitely the better choice because of her high Demolition, Wrist Launcher, and ability to turn her into a Jedi. I have previously played the game as a DS character and gotten her in my party. What you need to do is go back and forth in gain LS and DS points in the game and have a slight LS alignment when you get to Nar Shaddaa; you can get Mira as a party member and still have plenty of time to make enough DS options to get the bonus from being completely aligned.
Stoinker666 2015 年 5 月 23 日 上午 8:46 
引用自 Hassat Hunter
You can actually save them all.

1) Onderon; Depends on your choice of leader
2) Nar Shaddaa; As you know
3) Dantooine; Depends on your choice of leadership. If DS Vrook might attack you on the settlers too however if you pick the wrong dialogue options, but it's possible to be DS and spare him.
4) Atris; Yes, you can spare her as well (and she gets really chatty at that :))


Thanks, I sided with the general on Onderon, on Dantooine I sided with the settlers, I killed the mercs that had Vrook locked up and he got mad. I realy don't go for DS/LS when it comes to bigger descisions, I just do what I feel like doing in that situation.

I would have had no problem with the Jedi attacking me because im DS, but I only had a**hole like dialogue options from "I have a few questions befor I kill you" to "get ready to die, old man". I wasn't even given the chance to consider sparing them.
Hassat Hunter 2015 年 5 月 23 日 上午 10:36 
On Dantooine, it really all depends on what you say to the Mercenaries, and Vrook afterwards that decides if he will turn hostile or not after Khoonda has been liberated.
Emmental 2015 年 5 月 25 日 上午 3:42 
I really wish they would make a 3rd installment of this with more grey options.
引用自 Dave
I really wish they would make a 3rd installment of this with more grey options.

Kotor 2 was pretty grey but yeah: I would've liked a 3rd Kotor in any event.
psycmaster421 2015 年 5 月 26 日 下午 5:45 
引用自 -3xA'Lu©κy
引用自 Dave
I really wish they would make a 3rd installment of this with more grey options.

Kotor 2 was pretty grey but yeah: I would've liked a 3rd Kotor in any event.

I agree. They had planned to make KOTOR 3, but cancelled it because LucasArts was having to make cutbacks and fired a lot of people; still, I don't see why they couldn't have eventually made one if they could wait 7-8 years to release TOR.
76561198403521092 2018 年 8 月 21 日 下午 7:46 
I usually like being a Being a good girl sith ((Dark side female but being good.))

Maybe I should try Light side male but be a bad guy.
JIM CROCE HOLOGRAM 2018 年 9 月 12 日 下午 1:25 
I think the way the story interacts with the dark/light gage is poorly done. Very poorly done.

Ultimately, your motivations are two-fold: to survive against the Sith that puruse you and to find out why the Jedi masters stripped you of the force and cast you out of the order.

The direction in which you take those motivations are (supposedly) steered by your aligment and Kreia's machinations.

The problem is that the game forces you to play lightside in order to get what you want from the Jedi Masters. To get the masters on-side the player has to please them, but that DOESN'T mean that the player-character actually gives a ♥♥♥♥ about the worldly affairs they're constantly dragged into. Granting the player light-side points for that is silly and generally goes against the game's own take on deconstructivism.

Except then it tries to insist that you're grey and following a wiser path, what with not being chained to one specific dogma. No, you're really not. You're just plain lying. You're engaging in things that you really don't care about for the sake of getting what you want. You don't care about what Queen Talia or Vaklu do to their people -- if you're playing a selfish darky, that is -- but... yeah, you get the point.

Coulda been a bit like Planescape: Torment with the whole system where you can say the same thing but determine if it's the truth or a lie.

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