STAR WARS™ Knights of the Old Republic™ II: The Sith Lords™

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What would Kreia think of Yoda?
Would she find him a fool blinded by the light or would she praise him for exiling himself for his failures?
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Zeldun Feb 28, 2015 @ 6:11pm 
I think that she'd have mixed feelings. They agree on some matters like on how the lightsaber does not define a jedi (until the prequals ♥♥♥♥♥♥ that up) and Yoda isn't exactly a pacifist either, like all of the council seemed to be during the Mandalorian Wars.
Delta-Kilo Feb 28, 2015 @ 10:52pm 
I concur she would have mixed feelings. His willingness to fight for his ideals she would likely approve (though she would deem those ideals naive at best). His exile she would likely not approve of. She would likely see that as a type of surrender, a senseless self-sacrifice that lacked puropose and failed to advance his cause. She never approved of Jedi isolating themselves from the galaxy ("It is conflict that strenghtens us, and isolation that weakens us")
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WickedRequiem Mar 1, 2015 @ 9:32pm 
An incompetent sucker for being manipulated by Sith due to overdependence and blind trust of the Force.
funewchie Mar 2, 2015 @ 1:10pm 
Kreia is a tricky one to peg. She hates both sides of the Force, viewing the Sith as short-sighted, bloodthirsty fools; and viewing the Jedi as ignorant cowards, who supress anything they cannot comprehend.

Kreia teaches manipulation and subtlety. She would condemn Yoda for not seeing through the Sith's plot.
("The fools rushed into a war. Charging headlong into battle, for the purpose of crushing a foe they could not detect. And in the end, they walked into the trap waiting for them.")

That said, she might give some sarcastic kudos to Yoda for him finally understanding everything, via the "revelation" he had when fighting Palpatine. In that moment, Yoda finally understood where he and the Jedi had gone wrong.

Having learned that, Yoda abandoned the hopeless fight, and fled. He then went into exile to meditate upon what he had learned, as well as what Qui-Gon had begun to teach him about becoming one with the Force.
Now armed with all his new knowledge, Yoda then began to teach it to others, namely Luke.

Kreia might have begrudgingly respected Yoda for having the wisdom to swallow his pride and admit he was wrong, not to mention being humble enough to accept being taught by his former apprentice [Qui-Gon].
Aeon Mar 9, 2015 @ 1:32pm 
Pretty sure Dooku taught Qui-Gon,

Originally posted by funewchie:
Kreia is a tricky one to peg. She hates both sides of the Force, viewing the Sith as short-sighted, bloodthirsty fools; and viewing the Jedi as ignorant cowards, who supress anything they cannot comprehend.

Kreia teaches manipulation and subtlety. She would condemn Yoda for not seeing through the Sith's plot.
("The fools rushed into a war. Charging headlong into battle, for the purpose of crushing a foe they could not detect. And in the end, they walked into the trap waiting for them.")

That said, she might give some sarcastic kudos to Yoda for him finally understanding everything, via the "revelation" he had when fighting Palpatine. In that moment, Yoda finally understood where he and the Jedi had gone wrong.

Having learned that, Yoda abandoned the hopeless fight, and fled. He then went into exile to meditate upon what he had learned, as well as what Qui-Gon had begun to teach him about becoming one with the Force.
Now armed with all his new knowledge, Yoda then began to teach it to others, namely Luke.

Kreia might have begrudgingly respected Yoda for having the wisdom to swallow his pride and admit he was wrong, not to mention being humble enough to accept being taught by his former apprentice [Qui-Gon].
Originally posted by Aeon:
Pretty sure Dooku taught Qui-Gon,

Originally posted by funewchie:
Kreia is a tricky one to peg. She hates both sides of the Force, viewing the Sith as short-sighted, bloodthirsty fools; and viewing the Jedi as ignorant cowards, who supress anything they cannot comprehend.

Kreia teaches manipulation and subtlety. She would condemn Yoda for not seeing through the Sith's plot.
("The fools rushed into a war. Charging headlong into battle, for the purpose of crushing a foe they could not detect. And in the end, they walked into the trap waiting for them.")

That said, she might give some sarcastic kudos to Yoda for him finally understanding everything, via the "revelation" he had when fighting Palpatine. In that moment, Yoda finally understood where he and the Jedi had gone wrong.

Having learned that, Yoda abandoned the hopeless fight, and fled. He then went into exile to meditate upon what he had learned, as well as what Qui-Gon had begun to teach him about becoming one with the Force.
Now armed with all his new knowledge, Yoda then began to teach it to others, namely Luke.

Kreia might have begrudgingly respected Yoda for having the wisdom to swallow his pride and admit he was wrong, not to mention being humble enough to accept being taught by his former apprentice [Qui-Gon].
Qui-Gon Jinn taught Yoda to become a force ghost. Anyway, funewchie pretty much nailed it. The only thing I could add would be her opinion on Yoda's experience with Anakin/Plagueis. She would have deemed Yoda a complete failure for how Anakin was raised and taught. Had she been the one to teach him Anakin would have easily outperformed Revan because that is what she would see Anakin as, Revan.
Originally posted by funewchie:
Kreia is a tricky one to peg. She hates both sides of the Force, viewing the Sith as short-sighted, bloodthirsty fools; and viewing the Jedi as ignorant cowards, who supress anything they cannot comprehend.

Kreia teaches manipulation and subtlety. She would condemn Yoda for not seeing through the Sith's plot.
("The fools rushed into a war. Charging headlong into battle, for the purpose of crushing a foe they could not detect. And in the end, they walked into the trap waiting for them.")

That said, she might give some sarcastic kudos to Yoda for him finally understanding everything, via the "revelation" he had when fighting Palpatine. In that moment, Yoda finally understood where he and the Jedi had gone wrong.

Having learned that, Yoda abandoned the hopeless fight, and fled. He then went into exile to meditate upon what he had learned, as well as what Qui-Gon had begun to teach him about becoming one with the Force.
Now armed with all his new knowledge, Yoda then began to teach it to others, namely Luke.

Kreia might have begrudgingly respected Yoda for having the wisdom to swallow his pride and admit he was wrong, not to mention being humble enough to accept being taught by his former apprentice [Qui-Gon].

Other than what Aeon said, I really like this post of yours funewchie.

I personally think she'd be neutral in regards to Yoda as Yoda needs to be given more credit. Despite his phrasing of sentences he's a much smarter breed of Jedi and really seems to understand the force better than most if not all of the characters. He's open to change as others have said and preaches widsom in an often non-annoying way I feel.

Stating all of this and perhaps too much of the obvious now makes me think Kreia could possibly relate to Yoda. They are awfully similar and I see a lot of Yoda in Kreia when I go back and play Kotor 2 on occassion -- that's perhaps why I like her so much. That, and her mysterious :>
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