KOTOR 3

[Kai]

Larian, cdpr or obsidian for Kotor3?

[76561199067947883]

larian wud do best considering the fact they put their full potential into their games and their game design wud match that of kotor games

[psychotron666]

Originally posted by Shk9807:

larian wud do best considering the fact they put their full potential into their games and their game design wud match that of kotor games

Huh? So far larian has shown how to make fun combat and overall fun games. But they haven't shown any signs of making good dialogue or dialogue choices that Kotor focuses on.

Their lore and dialogues is surface level at best, and in many cases borders on parody.

[wildnike]

The originally pitched Kotor 3 by Obsidian is still by far my favorite one, and although there has been a lot of talent exchange over the years I think they could take up the reigns again, assuming a one to one thousand chance they get Avellone back on board for a purely freelance relationship. Backed by Microsoft I'm sure they could pull it off.

Larian has very solid worldbuilding and characters but they always stumble on their plots and endings. If Kotor 3 is our Return of the Jedi to Kotor 2's Empire Strikes Back/makeshift not entirely done PS:T, it needs to have a spectacular ending.

CDPR has never been very good at story either. Their combat is very fun and characters usually intriguing with branching side stories, but the core characters and elements have often always felt flat to me. A Kotor 3 would be very story focused, so I don't think they'd fit the best bill either.

Not that either company couldn't make a great Kotor 3 -- I love their games -- but the best choice is still the fantasy choice, Obsidian.

[Ragnarök]

None of the above. Obsidian and CDPR are shadows of what they used to be and their talent is gone. I don't think Larian is that special to begin with as the Divinity series always seemed generic to me.

Recently, Outerworlds was trash, Cyberpunk 2077 was trash and Baldur's Gate III is a beta test being sold at full price.

I'd rather see a random B-list studio pick it up with Chris Avellone as lead writer. TOR would need to be retconned entirely as trying to shoehorn a satisfying middle into that mess of a plot would be a massive handicap.

[wildnike]

Originally posted by Ragnarök:

I'd rather see a random B-list studio pick it up with Chris Avellone as lead writer. TOR would need to be retconned entirely as trying to shoehorn a satisfying middle into that mess of a plot would be a massive handicap.

A possible option would be Kotor 3 branching off on its own canon, ignoring the TOR saga in the same sort of split we have now with Canon and Legends, as I doubt TOR will be fully scrubbed. TOR already decided to spin its own set of inconsistencies with Kotor 2, and with EA's recent release of Star Wars games control I don't see why future titles can't have their own subset of canon, given different companies will be telling their different tales.

On the topic of alternative developers, Arkane Studios wouldn't be a bad call. Avellone worked with them before on Prey -- which was a good story-driven game -- and they have been pretty consistent in quality. If anyone is getting the reigns to the Kotor series -- especially since it's very likely to have 1 and 2 remastered/remade before anything 3 related comes out -- they'd work.

[Ragnarök]

Originally posted by wildnike:

I don't see why future titles can't have their own subset of canon, given different companies will be telling their different tales.

I very much doubt they'll do anything with EU material other than continue to pillage it to bolster their watery Nu-Canon. Perhaps you'll see the odd HD support patch for older games but you're never going to see them expand with new entries or legitimate remasters. The last hurrah for that timeline is TOR merely because they're still under contract. When it ends, it's curtains.

[Kai]

Originally posted by wildnike:

On the topic of alternative developers, Arkane Studios wouldn't be a bad call. Avellone worked with them before on Prey -- which was a good story-driven game -- and they have been pretty consistent in quality. If anyone is getting the reigns to the Kotor series -- especially since it's very likely to have 1 and 2 remastered/remade before anything 3 related comes out -- they'd work.

A Prey/Half life type of space/survival game should be interesting. A deusex/cyberpunk would be great as well, hub based or open world fps/rpg would be amazing. If i think about it, if they ease up on the RPG a little and expand their focus with other gameplay elements, a KOTOR game can evolve into a deusex/cyberpunk kind of game, i wouldnt have a problem with it.

[sebastian.gibson23]

Luckly some one can i would like it in the og grathics to give u that nostaga feeling

[sebastian.gibson23]

i would prefer more kotor style gameplay instead of something new cause games that go with more action and improve the combat often lose the story example fallout one to new fallout games with new games fallout 76 at launch had no conversations

[sebastian.gibson23]

Originally posted by Ragnarök:

None of the above. Obsidian and CDPR are shadows of what they used to be and their talent is gone. I don't think Larian is that special to begin with as the Divinity series always seemed generic to me.

Recently, Outerworlds was trash, Cyberpunk 2077 was trash and Baldur's Gate III is a beta test being sold at full price.

I'd rather see a random B-list studio pick it up with Chris Avellone as lead writer. TOR would need to be retconned entirely as trying to shoehorn a satisfying middle into that mess of a plot would be a massive handicap.

how was outer worlds was trash i would say it has a better story than kotor 2 so i think obsidon do the story as there god tier

[Ancient Ways]

There are rumors rumbling around of another Kotor game in the works. But, the rumors I heard are of a game that re-tells the story in the original 2 games. Something more akin to a remake. Basically, what Doom 3 was the the original Doom.

Personally, I feel the original games work well enough. Enough that I'd prefer Kotor 3 actually got done to finish what kotor 2 set up about Revan going to the unknown regions of the galaxy. That's a tale that badly needs telling.

[Ancient Ways]

Originally posted by Ragnarök:

I'd rather see a random B-list studio pick it up with Chris Avellone as lead writer. TOR would need to be retconned entirely as trying to shoehorn a satisfying middle into that mess of a plot would be a massive handicap.

Avellone was involved with Underworld Ascendant. That game that was supposed to be a sequel to the Ultima Underworld games. It turned out to be utter and absolute garbage. He wasn't the one in charge, though.

It just seems the old time developers tend to lose their touch in modern times, and I fear Chris may be no exception.

He is (or was) working on the upcoming System Shock game, which seemed to be in a lot of trouble last year.

[Ragnarök]

Originally posted by Ancient Ways:

Avellone was involved with Underworld Ascendant. That game that was supposed to be a sequel to the Ultima Underworld games. It turned out to be utter and absolute garbage. He wasn't the one in charge, though.

It just seems the old time developers tend to lose their touch in modern times, and I fear Chris may be no exception.

He is (or was) working on the upcoming System Shock game, which seemed to be in a lot of trouble last year.

I don't consider working on one game that was destined to suck from the onset a stain on the man's reputation. I don't know a soul who was hyped for Underworld Ascendent, much less anyone that remembers it now.

As for System Shock, he hasn't worked on that since 2017 when he left Obsidian. Their problems are their own.

[sebastian.gibson23]

Why dont We give bioware or obsdin anther go and if the screw it p just ask another dev like bethsda

[Zelligaryan]

Originally posted by sebastian.gibson23:

Why dont We give bioware or obsdin anther go and if the screw it p just ask another dev like bethsda

Bioware and Obsidian lost their touch long ago and Bethesda hasn't made a good game since 2001