Is Kylo Ren related to Revan?

[Ith]

Reven... Re"ve"n... Ren. The name Ren is given, because Kylo Ren is from the Knights Of Ren. Could this be the evolution of the Revenites from SWTOR? A lot can happen in that massive space in time. Some food for thought, posting it here because... this game is all about Revan :)

[Denim]

Plausible, I was thinking the same thing when I first heard and saw Kylo Ren. The ressemblance is sort of big, but the answer may be revealed once the movie is out ^^

[Glaex]

Probably not, considering the expanded universe was murdered, and Disney wants to forget it ever existed.

[Darth Haze]

Its not, though I personally believe when they were writing the story, they were inspired by Revan's design and name.

[Ith]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Glaex:

Probably not, considering the expanded universe was murdered, and Disney wants to forget it ever existed.

Yeah, the expanded universe was murdered. But I think it was more of the after episode 6 canon that was eradicated.

[Darth Haze]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Scott:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Glaex:

Probably not, considering the expanded universe was murdered, and Disney wants to forget it ever existed.

Yeah, the expanded universe was murdered. But I think it was more of the after episode 6 canon that was eradicated.

I wished they kept the KOTOR stuff canon. The post RotJ stuff is kinda crappy outside of the Thrawn, Vong, and Legacy stories.

[Ith]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Darth Haze:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Scott:

Yeah, the expanded universe was murdered. But I think it was more of the after episode 6 canon that was eradicated.

I wished they kept the KOTOR stuff canon. The post RotJ stuff is kinda crappy outside of the Thrawn, Vong, and Legacy stories.

It's still canon in my mind, because it happens so far away from the main timeline.

[The Doc]

there is no hope of a resembalance they are about 4200 years apart

[M2B]

While they have stated officially that the EU is not canon, we shouldn't have anything to fear for our beloved KOTOR. According to my observations, story writers seem to be thinking along the lines of "canon until not canon", meaning, unless it's written out, no one is saying it never happened. Heck, look how at how close Revan got to entering the canon. And Darth Bane got in during the Clone Wars episode "Sacrifice". The writers over at Disney know what they're doing. KOTOR will remain to be "canon" as I believe that the writers know there isn't anything to achieve in overwriting or changing what BioWare and Obsidian have created. I'm also confident that we may slowly start to see parts of EU leak into canon through new novels, shows, comics, etc. etc. For many fans, the EU is much more than a simple alternate universe, what if scnerio, or fantasy, it's basically why we're fans of Star Wars in the first place, and I believe Disney knows that. Without it Star Wars is basically reduced to a cliche space opera, and tbh, I'm more a fan of the EU than the official canon (and I'm sure a lot of you feel the same way).

So for now, we can all breathe easily as I'm very sure nothing is going to overwrite what KOTOR has set into our head canons. There's practically no motivation for Disney to venture thousands of years into the past.

On topic though:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von darraghoc:

there is no hope of a resembalance they are about 4200 years apart

this

[hurdle32]

I believe in the books, Darth Bane was influenced by a Sith Holocron of Revan. The origins of the rule of 2. So, potentially thousands of years could pass and Revan could still influence the present.

[Lebe Frei]

It is definitely, officially not canon to the movies. Kylo Ren has nothing to do with Revan, nor does anything else in these games have anything to do with The Force Awakens. The guy quoted below is in charge of canon at the new Disney owned Lucasfilm Story Group.

http://arcadesushi.com/bioware-star-wars-kotor-canon/

one attendee asked the panel a simple question: "Are the Old Republic expansions canon?"

Creative executive Pablo Hidalgo fielded the question with a response that made every KOTOR fan's hear sink into his or her chest: "No. BioWare has created their own universe that is so fantastic, we're not going to change it."

[bluewolf644]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Glaex:

Probably not, considering the expanded universe was murdered, and Disney wants to forget it ever existed.

Lucas had previously stated that EU stuff was not cannon. Disney simply relabeled it to make it more apprent. So no, Disney did not murder EU, they just made the tombstone bigger.

[Darth Plagueis The Wise]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von bluewolf644:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Glaex:

Probably not, considering the expanded universe was murdered, and Disney wants to forget it ever existed.

Lucas had previously stated that EU stuff was not cannon. Disney simply relabeled it to make it more apprent. So no, Disney did not murder EU, they just made the tombstone bigger.

Actually, it was canon if George Lucas owned star wars. He could opverwrite it, but it was canon until overwrited. He even had someone who's job was to make sure that the EU didn't get out of hand or contradicted itself. So, yes it was, but if you want to, you can just ignore this, there were times when he stated that it was, and times that he stated that it didn't.

[Maarten]

I've always been quite confused about this, since SWTOR tells 2 stories, 1 that shatele and theron are desendants off Revan and bastilla, but Lord scourge also tells that Revan and the Exile have been together for years and he keeps calling the exile a her*
so maybe their indeed could be more offsprings, but then darth vader should be from that line also since kylo is child of han and leia and han has no force whatsoever...

[Snake Eater]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Jay:

I've always been quite confused about this, since SWTOR tells 2 stories, 1 that shatele and theron are desendants off Revan and bastilla, but Lord scourge also tells that Revan and the Exile have been together for years and he keeps calling the exile a her*
so maybe their indeed could be more offsprings, but then darth vader should be from that line also since kylo is child of han and leia and han has no force whatsoever...

you're spoiling for people who haven't seen the movie dude

['Enz0.]

Revan doesn't exist in canon, so no.

BTW. Guys, listen, I understand that it pains to have KotOR and other great stories not canon but can you really blame Disney? Can you imagine to just sit through all the comics, books, games and whatever, picking what is canon and what is not? There were good stories and there were horrible ones. I think "murdering" EU was the best thing they could do.

Fresh, new franchise owner, fresh, new start. I think that was the only reasonable thing to do. They could either accept all of the EU and its nonsense along with great stories like old republic ones, or they could ignore all the EU and have Star Wars be their own thing from now on.

If they chose to pick some games canon and some not, pick some books canon and some not, it would do nothing but create confusion among people. Especially people who are Star Wars fans that stick to the movies only. Like our fathers etc.

Don't start a (star) war over this, canon or not, KotORs remain in our memory, as great as they always were.