Kotor 3 IS BEING MADE (It got canned)

[XzInF3RnOzX]

http://www.moddb.com/games/star-wars-knights-of-the-old-republic-3-tea
A indie group of developers by the name of Droitech Games® is finally tired of waiting for EA or Obsidian to make this game. They seem to be legit and I'm extremely pumped to see how they do and even more excited to finally be able to continue the great story which is Kotor!!!!

[Seera1024]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von INFOWARS.COM:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Seera1024:

And where is your proof that his legal team has given him a green light?

EA, money hungry EA, owns the license for the games. Why would they let someone else get money from it? The creator claims there is no copyright issue at all. There is. If he even touches the character names from the previous games if he even mentions Jedi or Sith or any of the named planets, then he touches on copyrighted material. Are you going to tell me that EA, let's rush games to market EA, is going to let someone else profit off of KOTOR 3? When tons of people would buy it simply for it being KOTOR 3.

Copyrights by companies last 120 years if they were published after 1978. KOTOR 3 would be a derivative of KOTOR and KOTOR 2 and therefore fall under the protection of the copyright for both KOTOR and KOTOR 2. KOTOR and KOTOR 2 are therefore still copyrighted. He claims it's not copyrighted.

EA owns Bioware now and EA would not give up a copyright. So EA likely owns the KOTOR copyright. Not to mention they own the copyright for SWTOR. And since their game touches on Revan and the exile, those characters are mentioned in SWTOR...

His claims of no copyright are false. Therefore his claims of being in the clear legality wise are likely false as well.

What I am telling you, is that nobody would be stupid enough to waste resources into a project if it was going to run into an obvious copyright. Unless its a fan made non profit game, which usually means only 1 man project with low quality.

Basically if this is going to be a profit game with a full team of devs, then obviously they have a green light, or it would not exist.

I very very very very highly doubt it's legal if it's own separate game.

Now, if it's a really fancy mod for KOTOR 1 or KOTOR 2, then they may be fine. EA has in the past overlooked people paying money for downloadable content for a game. Even though it is technically against their TOS to profit off their copyright. Whether they'd let someone get away with charging more than a few bucks for it is unknown.

EA is still way too money hungry to let ANYONE profit off of KOTOR 3 without getting their own cut.

They're fixing to release a game in about two months that one of the PRODUCERS of the game has said wasn't ready. And not the we're still finding bugs kind of not ready. As in game code itself isn't finished.


But the guy's claim of no copyright is downright false. Which means if he's claiming his legal team has given him the go ahead due to no copyright issue it's either a mod for KOTOR or KOTOR 2 (which would be a TOS issue rather than a copyright issue), his legal team is lying to him, or he's lying to us, or he means something else by not an issue.

But if it is its own separate game and he hasn't even talked to EA about it, it's not a legal game. Period end of. EA owns the copyright to anything KOTOR related since a KOTOR 3 would be a derivative. Because there IS a copyright issue that has to be addressed.

Now maybe he means no copyright issue because he's talked with EA and has their blessing as long as they get X% of the sales. But KOTOR and KOTOR 2 (and therefore ALL derivatives - meaning anything would be a legit sequel to the games) are copyrighted. Bioware and Obsidian own the copyrights to those two and EA owns the copyright for SWTOR (which does reference Revan).

[Moon Beast]

It would seem that this "Droitech" no longer exist. I saw a VERY good theory- this is EA generating buissness ploy - hence "The 100% leagal seal." What better way to excite gamers then to lay down a wall of deciet ... actually its very STAR WARS-ish when you think about it. Or one VERY bad pratical joke. Or a darn good one.

[Zangetsu]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Seera1024:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von INFOWARS.COM:

What I am telling you, is that nobody would be stupid enough to waste resources into a project if it was going to run into an obvious copyright. Unless its a fan made non profit game, which usually means only 1 man project with low quality.

Basically if this is going to be a profit game with a full team of devs, then obviously they have a green light, or it would not exist.

I very very very very highly doubt it's legal if it's own separate game.

Now, if it's a really fancy mod for KOTOR 1 or KOTOR 2, then they may be fine. EA has in the past overlooked people paying money for downloadable content for a game. Even though it is technically against their TOS to profit off their copyright. Whether they'd let someone get away with charging more than a few bucks for it is unknown.

EA is still way too money hungry to let ANYONE profit off of KOTOR 3 without getting their own cut.

They're fixing to release a game in about two months that one of the PRODUCERS of the game has said wasn't ready. And not the we're still finding bugs kind of not ready. As in game code itself isn't finished.


But the guy's claim of no copyright is downright false. Which means if he's claiming his legal team has given him the go ahead due to no copyright issue it's either a mod for KOTOR or KOTOR 2 (which would be a TOS issue rather than a copyright issue), his legal team is lying to him, or he's lying to us, or he means something else by not an issue.

But if it is its own separate game and he hasn't even talked to EA about it, it's not a legal game. Period end of. EA owns the copyright to anything KOTOR related since a KOTOR 3 would be a derivative. Because there IS a copyright issue that has to be addressed.

Now maybe he means no copyright issue because he's talked with EA and has their blessing as long as they get X% of the sales. But KOTOR and KOTOR 2 (and therefore ALL derivatives - meaning anything would be a legit sequel to the games) are copyrighted. Bioware and Obsidian own the copyrights to those two and EA owns the copyright for SWTOR (which does reference Revan).

You still dont get it. If its being backed and is looking to sell copies, obviously they have a green light or it would never get to this point.

[Seera1024]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von INFOWARS.COM:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Seera1024:

I very very very very highly doubt it's legal if it's own separate game.

Now, if it's a really fancy mod for KOTOR 1 or KOTOR 2, then they may be fine. EA has in the past overlooked people paying money for downloadable content for a game. Even though it is technically against their TOS to profit off their copyright. Whether they'd let someone get away with charging more than a few bucks for it is unknown.

EA is still way too money hungry to let ANYONE profit off of KOTOR 3 without getting their own cut.

They're fixing to release a game in about two months that one of the PRODUCERS of the game has said wasn't ready. And not the we're still finding bugs kind of not ready. As in game code itself isn't finished.


But the guy's claim of no copyright is downright false. Which means if he's claiming his legal team has given him the go ahead due to no copyright issue it's either a mod for KOTOR or KOTOR 2 (which would be a TOS issue rather than a copyright issue), his legal team is lying to him, or he's lying to us, or he means something else by not an issue.

But if it is its own separate game and he hasn't even talked to EA about it, it's not a legal game. Period end of. EA owns the copyright to anything KOTOR related since a KOTOR 3 would be a derivative. Because there IS a copyright issue that has to be addressed.

Now maybe he means no copyright issue because he's talked with EA and has their blessing as long as they get X% of the sales. But KOTOR and KOTOR 2 (and therefore ALL derivatives - meaning anything would be a legit sequel to the games) are copyrighted. Bioware and Obsidian own the copyrights to those two and EA owns the copyright for SWTOR (which does reference Revan).

You still dont get it. If its being backed and is looking to sell copies, obviously they have a green light or it would never get to this point.

No, you don't get it.

Or it could be a scammer trying to get people to part with their cold hard cash and then later have someting "unexpected" come up and there is "no money left". Or could be a group of people trying to release a game and praying that EA doesn't catch on.


And he says and I quote: "and this isn't Copyright Infringement because there is nothing to copy. everything being created is original new content." Which is not true. Any character that showed up in KOTOR 1 or KOTOR 2 are copyrighted. Jedi, the Force as it is in the Star Wars universe, is copyrighted, the names of the planets are copyrighted, the name of the ships are copyrighted. There is a copyright issue. Unless he's renaming everything and coming up with some new Force like thing.

EA is very money hungry. Not once do they mention that they have EA's blessing to work with their copyright.

EA could be waiting to see if the work has actual risk of being released and not just someone's pipe dream before suing them. Or maybe that's what happened to last group who tried to make KOTOR 3. EA caught wind of it and stopped them.



And if you go to the site linked here and try to get to either site linked, they go nowhere currently. It's really suspicious that right after people started noticing their attempt that they put the site into maintainance mode. That was supposed to be over three days ago. Granted sometimes maintainace sometimes takes longer so it being longer than scheduled isn't by itself a red flag, but combined with the timing of the popularity of this rumor,

And until they release a demo or alpha stage version of it, that's all it is. Rumor.

And a very very unlikely to be true rumor. Just due to the copyright issue and who owns said copyright.

[DeadBeat]

I'm going to put this as succinctly as possible. fallout 4=hoax
kotor 3=hoax.

[Dr. McWeazel]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von rjb388:

I'm going to put this as succinctly as possible. fallout 4=hoax
kotor 3=hoax.

Considering Bethesda currently both owns the copyrights to Fallout and are the people developing Fallout 4, I wouldn't say it's a hoax.

What I would say is that you're an idiot who's trying to bring everybody down for no apparent reason.

[Scvideoking]

To simplify the legality worries/issues. Not only Did EA gain the rights to NEW games for Star Wars titles and KOTOR 3 was cancelled and the series is OLD. Also The mod mentions several times in his postings that the team has made every effort to alert the Legals that they plan to make this game. My guess is? If they make the game and it turns out good someone will claim copyright unless the team offers a cut for sales.

[Seera1024]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Scvideoking:

To simplify the legality worries/issues. Not only Did EA gain the rights to NEW games for Star Wars titles and KOTOR 3 was cancelled and the series is OLD. Also The mod mentions several times in his postings that the team has made every effort to alert the Legals that they plan to make this game. My guess is? If they make the game and it turns out good someone will claim copyright unless the team offers a cut for sales.

The problem is the concepts in the game are copyrighted as well. Not to mention Revan and the Exile were both mentioned in SWTOR. A game that EA owns the copyright to. And copyrights do cover any work that would be considered a derivative. Which sequels and prequels and remakes would all fall under: derivative works.

I can't go and write a book that details the life of Harry Potter after the events of the 7th Harry Potter book for profit. Because I don't own the rights to it. Even though JK Rowling says she isn't going to write anymore books starring Harry. It would be a derivative of the various Harry Potter books. Just because someone (or a company) declares they aren't going to make a sequel doesn't cancel the copyright or give others permission to make the games without their permission.

So KOTOR 3 would still fall under the copyrights of KOTOR, KOTOR 2, and SWTOR. And last I checked EA owned the rights to make the games (Disney owns the copyrights to all things Star Wars). So they would likely have to get permission from both EA and Disney to continue. Because Disney is trying to redefine the canon and they are doing away with the multi-universe thing. So anything new would become canon. And if KOTOR 3 is made and therefore canon it makes KOTOR and KOTOR 2 canon with SWTOR possibly canon. And Disney may not want to do that. And EA may want more control over the production of the game.

And if it turns out bad, they'll still throw copyright issue out there to get the game off of the market to give them a shot at making a better version of the game. Either way unless there's been legal discussions with EA and/or Disney, the game is not legal and buyer beware when they decide to start taking money for it.

[Prae]

Ok, first, this isn't legit. Second his little synopsis of the plot contradicts already established plot points brought up in SWTOR. Going after the Sith Emperor one year after the events of KOTOR 2? No. SWTOR takes place 300 years after and the Sith Emperor is still around.

[Anslem]

"What I am telling you, is that nobody would be stupid enough to waste resources into a project if it was going to run into an obvious copyright"

Wrong. It's happened countless times. The most recent being that Fighting is Magic game or whatever it was called who also thought they were in the clear...they weren't. Nor was that Chrono Trigger remake.

I'll just say it now. If a KOTOR 3 is ever made, it sure as hell won't be made by a team of modders. Once their project gets into swing the powers that be will swoop in and shut it down. The end.

[Booty-Ass Fingers]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von General Nonsense:

1) They need the rights from Lucasarts under Disney.
2) If they do not have the rights, they may be forgiven or sued.

Disney gave the Star Wars Video Game Lisience to Dice. They are making Star Wars Battlefront.

[Booty-Ass Fingers]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Anslem:

"What I am telling you, is that nobody would be stupid enough to waste resources into a project if it was going to run into an obvious copyright"

Wrong. It's happened countless times. The most recent being that Fighting is Magic game or whatever it was called who also thought they were in the clear...they weren't. Nor was that Chrono Trigger remake.

I'll just say it now. If a KOTOR 3 is ever made, it sure as hell won't be made by a team of modders. Once their project gets into swing the powers that be will swoop in and shut it down. The end.

Don't forget that they messed up Battlefield 4 REAL BAD. They would do anything to get their customers back so they can get MORE MONEY.

[Zoopy]

Copyright issues aside, these hobby projects rarely go anywhere anyway. People are pumped in the beginning, then they realise how much work it is and about a 1/3rd into production they just give up.

[Emmental]

KOTOR 3 would be such an amazing success even if it turned out to be ♥♥♥♥. There's so many Star Wars and KOTOR specific fans it would sell itself. Why doesn't EA/Bioware just do it already? Can't be worse than Mass Effect 3 right? ....Right?

[Dr. McWeazel]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Dave:

KOTOR 3 would be such an amazing success even if it turned out to be ♥♥♥♥. There's so many Star Wars and KOTOR specific fans it would sell itself. Why doesn't EA/Bioware just do it already? Can't be worse than Mass Effect 3 right? ....Right?

I wish you weren't right. I want, with every fiber of my being, to believe that if Bioware went out and made Knights of the Old Republic III that it would sell because it's a good game and not because it's KotOR III.

But I know that's not true, and I know I'd buy it anyway.

I almost want to weep just thinking about it.