Mandalore's dialogue/quest

[Morty]

I used a save editor to raise Mandalore's influence to 100 (since I didn't feel like fiddling around with gathering it the normal way), but his extra dialogue doesn't trigger and he doesn't offer his quest. I've finished all the planets and can now go to Dantooine to talk to the Jedi Masters. Is there anything in particular that needs to be done before his content unlocks?

[red255]

I didnt realize he had a quest. you just gain influence getting the mandalore tribes back together for him and he gives you a stat boost from dialog as I recall.

[Morty]

I don't know if it's a quest as such, but shouldn't he tell you that the reason he tags along is to find them? I guess I can go find those Mandalorians anyway and see what happens.

[Dethlane]

IIRC there is no quest for him, but if you take him with you to 2 groups of mandos (one on Nar Shaddaa in apartments, one on Dantooine in merc camp), you can persuade them to join him, triggering his extra dialogue

[Morty]

Yeah, just going there and talking to them did the trick.

[jle30303]

I'd like to know whether there is a way of actually raising his influence high enough to get his whole story and extra dialogue, while still siding with Queen Talia and *against* General Vaklu, despite Mandalore's preference for Vaklu, since Jedi Master Kavarr seems to have taken Talia's side and more importantly Vaklu is aided by the Sith if you fight against him (I believe the Sith stay out of Onderon itself and confine themselves to the Sith tombs on the moon, if you take Vaklu's side), and moreover, it's his Colonel Tobin who opened fire on me and then framed me for having started the firefight over Onderon, so I am not inclined to cut Vaklu any slack...

Especially since I'm running short of other avoidable killings to do to raise his influence, having already completed Nar Shaddaa and Dantooine before going on to Onderon, and raised both Goto's and HK-47's influence high enough to discover their extra dialogue / content and bonuses, while still remaining strongly Light Side: there's only Korriban left after Onderon.

[jle30303]

And hm, it looks like Tobin doesn't track you to offer an alliance unless you've got rid of all three captains... I accepted the quest to do that, but didn't actually do it, and all Tobin did was set a bunch of guards on me so I'm with Talia whether I like it or not.

I guess you have to actually step over the line by removing the pro-Talia guards and doing *everything* to support Vaklu, otherwise Vaklu considers you an enemy on the grounds that you're not sufficiently fanatical as a friend?

(I mean, siding with the Republic was what I wanted to do anyway, but I find it interesting that I can start a riot on Vaklu's behalf, intervene in a street discussion on his behalf, and agree to get rid of Talia's generals while still being considered a royalist. I wonder if I also won the swoop race and shouted his name, like the other swoop champion wants me to, if that would make any difference...)

[Morty]

There are far too few ways of raising influence without carefully metagaming in general. If you don't have the right party member at the right time, there goes one of the few ways to raise their influence. It's why I said "screw it" and used a saved editor.

[Hassat Hunter]

Originally posted by jle30303:

(I mean, siding with the Republic was what I wanted to do anyway, but I find it interesting that I can start a riot on Vaklu's behalf, intervene in a street discussion on his behalf, and agree to get rid of Talia's generals while still being considered a royalist. I wonder if I also won the swoop race and shouted his name, like the other swoop champion wants me to, if that would make any difference...)

Doing that stuff gets you the quest to remove the captains. You still need to actually remove them to get offered to join. If you kill any of them, you are forced to join.

[jle30303]

Aha, that makes sense, and there's one of the three that you HAVE to kill - the other two can be removed without violence.

Geresi can be persuaded to hand in his notice and quit the job, and Riiken ends up being informed that he's about to be fired for speaking his mind too often, as an alternative to assassinating him... but there's no way to remove Bostuco without killing him.

This despite the fact that Bostuco is named as one of the people who might actually be sympathetic to Vaklu's point of view and regards him as his commanding officer, but is supporting the Queen anyway because she is technically Vaklu's own superior... however Bostuco is the one who greets you if you side with Talia, on the grounds that he can't follow a man who is making deals with the Sith.

If you get rid of the other two pro-Talia commanders via the non-violent methods, can you still side with Talia as long as neither Riiken nor Geresi actually died? Narratively, Riiken could have his court-martial cancelled by his superior officer Bostuco, and be recalled to the colours once he's proven right, that Vaklu really *has* allied with the Sith (and indeed, offscreen, he may be instrumental in persuading Bostuco) - he is later seen on Telos, having been promoted and put in charge of the Onderonian contribution there: and Geresi is never seen again anyway, even if you don't persuade him to quit.

If the player sides with Vaklu, in fact, it seems that Vaklu thinks your assistance will be strong enough for him to risk double-crossing the Sith, destroying their presence on Dxun and keeping them out of the palace assault altogether, then sending troops to Telos to fight against the Sith attack there...