Can't open impossible container

[thorin.hannahs]

Hello there. I can't open a container in Onderon Palace. Security doesn't work and my Demolition character is not given the option to place a mine to blow it up. Bashing is also not available.

What am I missing?

Thanks.

[UR ESTROGEN DEALER]

Original answer to this question from Obsidian forums circa 2005:

"You have to bring someone with high security skills, or build up your security skill yourself. A mine won't work. Sometimes I build up Mandalore's security skill to the max so he can open it or build up Atton's security skill so that he can open it."

[thorin.hannahs]

That is pretty terrible news considering it should say skill to low if it was a security only box. Thanks.

[red255]

you should check the message feedback.

also I can't recall every box in the game. some are unlocked from a terminal.

[cerberusiv]

It can be opened. I've done it using the main character (as a jedi sentinel/watchman) with a pretty high security skill plus boosted security from gear and a tunneller. So it isn't easy but it can be done.

[OldMemes.biz]

lol yeah that container is funny. I don't know the exact number but with security somewhere in the mid 20s, you can open it with a security spike tunneler, possibly a normal security tunneler. And when it opens, it still says "impossible" as it's opening for a split second. It's a weird container. But totally accessible.

Always build your Exile's security skill.

[thorin.hannahs]

Can that container be modded to accurately reflect the Skill too low message?

[OldMemes.biz]

Originally posted by thorin.hannahs:

Can that container be modded to accurately reflect the Skill too low message?

What does it matter. You need high security. Aim for like 25, my security is usually around there by then, with or without boosts. With boosts I'm close to 30, if not at 30. nless you're doing Onderon very early.

And no I doubt it can be modded anyway.

For the record... that container, while having the possibly of having something nice, doesn't always have something nice. If you can't open it you're not missing much. Sometimes there's a crystal, but, crystals aren't THAT hard to get really...

[thorin.hannahs]

Originally posted by Names:

Originally posted by thorin.hannahs:

Can that container be modded to accurately reflect the Skill too low message?

What does it matter. You need high security. Aim for like 25, my security is usually around there by then, with or without boosts. With boosts I'm close to 30, if not at 30. nless you're doing Onderon very early.

And no I doubt it can be modded anyway.

For the record... that container, while having the possibly of having something nice, doesn't always have something nice. If you can't open it you're not missing much. Sometimes there's a crystal, but, crystals aren't THAT hard to get really...

It matters to me for the sake of continuity of mechanics. If people with knowledge of modding are available in this thread then I am interested in their opinions on what it might take to mod one lonely unimportant container regardless of how small it might be. The research and labor would be more rewarding than the container itself.

I don't need assistance on how to have my stats laid out across my party and various skills. I also understand rng affects containers.

Thank you for your input but next time just stick to answering the question.

[UR ESTROGEN DEALER]

Originally posted by thorin.hannahs:

Originally posted by Names:

What does it matter. You need high security. Aim for like 25, my security is usually around there by then, with or without boosts. With boosts I'm close to 30, if not at 30. nless you're doing Onderon very early.

And no I doubt it can be modded anyway.

For the record... that container, while having the possibly of having something nice, doesn't always have something nice. If you can't open it you're not missing much. Sometimes there's a crystal, but, crystals aren't THAT hard to get really...

It matters to me for the sake of continuity of mechanics. If people with knowledge of modding are available in this thread then I am interested in their opinions on what it might take to mod one lonely unimportant container regardless of how small it might be. The research and labor would be more rewarding than the container itself.

I don't need assistance on how to have my stats laid out across my party and various skills. I also understand rng affects containers.

Thank you for your input but next time just stick to answering the question.

It doesn't really need to be modded

"Skill too low" = level up quick and come back

"Impossible" = you will not open it no matter how many levels you get in this zone

[thorin.hannahs]

Originally posted by BrockSamson:

Originally posted by thorin.hannahs:

It matters to me for the sake of continuity of mechanics. If people with knowledge of modding are available in this thread then I am interested in their opinions on what it might take to mod one lonely unimportant container regardless of how small it might be. The research and labor would be more rewarding than the container itself.

I don't need assistance on how to have my stats laid out across my party and various skills. I also understand rng affects containers.

Thank you for your input but next time just stick to answering the question.

It doesn't really need to be modded

"Skill too low" = level up quick and come back

"Impossible" = you will not open it no matter how many levels you get in this zone

I agree it doesn't NEED to be modded but I am more curious about the modding aspect of it over the functionality of it and might as well use one thing to get more knowledge about both. Is that what the engine means it to mean or is that your interpretation of it?

Because that is pretty badass for an engine to know that the allotted experience in a zone, my current lvl in security and all the security increasing gear I have in inventory is not enough to open it.

[UR ESTROGEN DEALER]

Originally posted by thorin.hannahs:

Originally posted by BrockSamson:

It doesn't really need to be modded

"Skill too low" = level up quick and come back

"Impossible" = you will not open it no matter how many levels you get in this zone

Is that what the engine means it to mean or is that your interpretation of it?

In my experience (100 hours here and hundreds more on Original Xbox) that is what "Skill too low" and "Impossible" mean

I'm sure if you dig through the game files you could find the respective meanings.. old games like this tend to have everything right there for someone to find

Originally posted by thorin.hannahs:

my current lvl in security and all the security increasing gear I have in inventory is not enough to open it.

if all the +security gear together doesn't equal an additional +10, it probably won't mean much

[OldMemes.biz]

This argument is getting stupid.

It can be opened.

You need high security and probably a tunneler or spike tunneler as well (that's how I've done it, high sec plus a tunneler)

It's just text. It can't really be modded.

The "continuity of mechanics" is fine. It's an error in the text.

Get the hell over it already. There's being pedantic then there's "Look how cool I am for caring about something so obscure and niche! That means I care about this game more than you!" No.

[UR ESTROGEN DEALER]

Originally posted by Names:

This argument is getting stupid.

It can be opened.

You need high security and probably a tunneler or spike tunneler as well (that's how I've done it, high sec plus a tunneler)

It's just text. It can't really be modded.

The "continuity of mechanics" is fine. It's an error in the text.

Get the hell over it already. There's being pedantic then there's "Look how cool I am for caring about something so obscure and niche! That means I care about this game more than you!" No.

Stop going post to post harrassing people just because you're having a bad day

Your steam profile says "the steam community is trash"

No, YOU are trash.. read what you post, you shmuck

[OldMemes.biz]

Brock, you don't quite fit the community here. You appeared out of nowhere like a week ago or less, and then started going thread to thread causing arguments, and now try to accuse me of it...


Sorry but that doesn't fly. You need to calm down and breath. We're all mature here and know how to talk to each other. Go outside, take a breath and come back in and we can all be friends.

[thorin.hannahs]

Originally posted by Names:

This argument is getting stupid.

It can be opened.

You need high security and probably a tunneler or spike tunneler as well (that's how I've done it, high sec plus a tunneler)

It's just text. It can't really be modded.

The "continuity of mechanics" is fine. It's an error in the text.

Get the hell over it already. There's being pedantic then there's "Look how cool I am for caring about something so obscure and niche! That means I care about this game more than you!" No.

I get man. Once the discussion turned to modding questions you just weren't into it any more. On top of my interest stemming from one container (with exaggeration for comedic effect) that has an error in text that caught my attention.

The thread has been given an answer that you are in agreement with so; why are you blocking the topic once the topic shifted when you could just unsubscribe to the thread?

I do hope you have a better day.