Turning Bao-dur into a dark jedi is the best thing in any star wars game.

[Officersmile1466]

I don't hate Bao-dur, but in an amazing cast of characters he kind of sucks. I was recently playing my first DS run and on a lark I decided to try to "seduce" him to the dark side (to reference how Obi Wan first described Vader's fall). Essentially it involves being super nice and friendly and loving when Bao-dur is in the party, so that he loves me and his influence keeps soaring but when he's not around I kill anyone I see and maintain total dark side supremacy. This eventually creates a hilarious twist where Bao-dur blabbers about how much he loves me, little realizing he's essentially turning into darth maul. Needless to say, not only getting to witness a long seduction of a good person to the dark side is not only refreshing to see logically played out in star wars, but getting to instigate it is a huge testament to the astonishing quality of writing in KOTOR 2.

Additonally, the subtle differences in Atton's transition to the force between light and dark is really stunning as well. Exact same backstory, slightly different interpretation from my player character and Atton can logically be a noble jedi or a deranged sith.

Also Hanharr has some absolutely astonishing and heart breaking writing. Considering in the LS run he's just an angry wookie who's barely in the game at all, it's incredibly impressive how tragic and haunting a character he is when you get a DS character breaking down his barriers.

I really love KOTOR 1 but I finally get what everyone has been saying, 2 really does have vastly superior writing and characterization (aside from the flat ending but the mods kind of help there).

[Effix]

:D sweet, have fun

[Emmental]

Originally posted by trentstrickland1466:

Essentially it involves being super nice and friendly and loving when Bao-dur is in the party, so that he loves me and his influence keeps soaring but when he's not around I kill anyone I see and maintain total dark side supremacy.

I really wish they had a 'lie' option for the nice things you say, so you gain influence with 'good' characters, but you get dark side points for it.

[Officersmile1466]

Originally posted by Dave:

I really wish they had a 'lie' option for the nice things you say, so you gain influence with 'good' characters, but you get dark side points for it.

That would have been pretty awesome but I guess given how confusing and poorly explained the influence system is and given how complex the dialogue trees can get, maybe they figured a "lie" option would just complicate matters for newbie players.

But your comment has totally reminded me how hilarious it was in KOTOR 1 when you got to first meet the jedi council and could "(Lie) I pledge myself to serve the light and honor the jedi!". That always cracks me up.

[Darth Cannabis]

If you had fun doing this, the other one I would like to suggest is the Dark Mira.

Start off as a fairly neutral character, and go strait for nar shadarr, being just slightly light sided as you get to the Mira/Hanharr moment of truth. Then go full dark, with playing the same game with Mira, as you did with Bao dur.

Nothing is better that a Sith lord with not 1 not 2 but 3 dark hotties at his side. Mira, Handmaiden, and Visas, became my dark angels, and I felt like an evil charlie. (And yes I sent all 3 of them together to the one tomb, like a Charlies Angel's episode)