best lightsaber?

[ProxyJames]

so overall I am suck in between using a double saber or 2 one handed sabers, I am so far into the two one handed sabers because I can stack the armor bonus from using 2 expert fencing emitters. so far the big difference between double and single is that single blade deals 2d10 energy damage and double deals 2d12 so you can MAYBE deal a extra 4ish damage, the to hit bonus are also kind of strange as the double will have a higher chance to hit with the main hand attack but a lower chance to hit with the offhand while using two singles has a higher chance to hit for the offhand and a lower chance to hit with the main hand (in my game due to my extra thicc bonuses both my sabers have around a +15 to hit)
also I was looking at some of the lightsaber weapon mods you can make and some are kind of pointless like the expert vibration lens witch adds a extra 2d6 damage but a -1 to attack mod and armor but pontite lens gives the same 2d6 damage but gives you +1 to attack mod (attack mod is your "to hit" on the d20 roll....yes this game has dice, all the damage is dice and its based on a d20 system not to different from D&D, just be happy it doesn't use the THAC0 lol)
so what do you guys like to use?

[Hassat Hunter]

Don't wear armor, since armor blocks Handmaiden's WIS to DEF power, even the Force Armors. Generally your armor will suffer significantly, as you get a lot of free WIS from, say, the Named Crystal.
There are items that offer 100% crit immunity, just wield any of those and you can shrug that off. Can't say much about status since Jedi Sentinels get immunities from most of them aswell.

Why heal and kill quick if you can not get hit and kill quick?
Not really a fan of re-applying those Force buffs every 20s

For mods, +attack or +damage, yes. But the higher tier ones offer stat bonusses. And those apply to both and other things than sabercombat. Hence why people prefer two weapons so often, massive damage boost AND auxilary boost? Yes please. And you always have one crystalslot filled with the Named Crystal (lots of stat buffs, not much damage buff), 2 sabers allow 3 more options than other wielders who got 1.

And yes, it goes without saying full-saber in the main hand and short-saber in the offhand.

[Emmental]

引用自 Hassat Hunter：

Don't wear armor, since armor blocks Handmaiden's WIS to DEF power, even the Force Armors.

What if you want to play a female character?

[Draescan]

Max level barrier and energy resist is trash and the whole tree line is sadly a waste of force power selection. You're talking damage mitigation for less than 1 attack in mid to late game. The numbers inflate so quickly that you'd have to re cast them every time you're hit against the more common dangerous enemies. No amount of dex stacking will save you from it, wisdom bonus to dex can't save you from marauder attack rolls

[red255]

引用自 Mattmoo：

引用自 Dave：

What if you want to play a female character?

Can always use Force Speed and things like that, the shield power.

Both can go along way if you aren't wearing that armor, may not be a replacement for everyone.

Anyway I've said my piece you guys can continue if you want. Thanks for sharing folks. =)

you can force speed in armor though, specific armor for using force powers. this light armor allows mods that can be inserted to reduce energy damage by a % and +str/con underlays, as opposed to the crappy mods robes get, just some underlays with what +3 con and regen?

if you are a dude, the Ossus keeper robes, and your WIS to DEF are great. if you don't have the WIS to DEF perk you get more mileage from the armors that don't restrict force powers, 30% energy damage reduction and +3 STR/CON.

As for whether or not DEF matters at that point in the game check the feedback, normally you need to stack ALOT of things for things to matter, but you can get alot of defense.

[Hassat Hunter]

引用自 Dave：

引用自 Hassat Hunter：

Don't wear armor, since armor blocks Handmaiden's WIS to DEF power, even the Force Armors.

What if you want to play a female character?

Then getting immune is next to impossible yes, unless you use mods to give you Handmaiden. It's kinda bad she gives such a powerful ability and Disciple nothing :/

@Mattmoo: Yeah the game is rather easy and anything will do so you do you. Nobody says otherwise. But that is not the question of the topic at hand, is it?

[Emmental]

引用自 Hassat Hunter：

引用自 Dave：

What if you want to play a female character?

Then getting immune is next to impossible yes, unless you use mods to give you Handmaiden. It's kinda bad she gives such a powerful ability and Disciple nothing :/

Just wear armour in either case. Immunity with resistance over the top makes you almost impervious anyway, then you can dump dex as it has no use along with your defense rating in general.

[Emmental]

I decided to beat up the greater storm beast with a duelist using the Shien form and flurry. His equipment wasn't perfect for this playthrough as I was a bit unlucky with drops but it's good enough.

This is the character I was using fully buffed.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2062320463

This is the attack modifier and damage.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2062320421

This is an average round.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2062300561

This was a nice double crit.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2062299140

I thought this one was funny because I still one shot him with a miss
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2062300750

[DOOMed]

Sorry, hate to butt in half way through a really good argument, that has been expressed well on both sides. But...

There is no substitute for alightsaber and short lightsaber in the off hand.

Not only can you buff your stats like crazy, but the attack bonus vs the to hit bonus is just insane.

That aside you can buff each light sabre with more than just stat buffs. You can have numerous situational buffs as well.

Pluses to crits, ion damage, massive crits etc.

You can flat out do more for less, for having 2 lightsabres. End of discussion.

Those extra crystals let you have so much more variation, and consequently, let you do so much more. Even just having two lightsabres, gives you so much more damage potential...

If you think otherwise, then you really need to go back and play the game again. Only do it how WE are saying.

I've been playing since it released on XBOX btw. Before the restored content mod.

[DOOMed]

引用自 Mattmoo：

引用自 Get Some!：

Sorry, hate to butt in half way through a really good argument, that has been expressed well on both sides. But...

There is no substitute for alightsaber and short lightsaber in the off hand.

Not only can you buff your stats like crazy, but the attack bonus vs the to hit bonus is just insane.

That aside you can buff each light sabre with more than just stat buffs. You can have numerous situational buffs as well.

Pluses to crits, ion damage, massive crits etc.

You can flat out do more for less, for having 2 lightsabres. End of discussion.

Those extra crystals let you have so much more variation, and consequently, let you do so much more. Even just having two lightsabres, gives you so much more damage potential...

If you think otherwise, then you really need to go back and play the game again. Only do it how WE are saying.

I've been playing since it released on XBOX btw. Before the restored content mod.

I added more earlier, but suffice to say I had to take it out.

I'll consider what you're saying but the gist of what I was saying is you can do quite well with a double blade saber if your strength is high enough (or probably Dueling as Dave is saying, for a Jedi Weapon Master).

But hey, I'll give your method a shot and see what results I get at some point. Also been playing since Xbox era so good to see another one of us. :)

Well, I will add one caveat. If you are going to play a dual lightsaber build, you'd be wise to choose a sentinel. Failing that choose a custom spec guardian.

Consulars are meant to be played with force powers in mind, not lightsabre combat.

[DOOMed]

引用自 Mattmoo：

引用自 Get Some!：

Sorry, hate to butt in half way through a really good argument, that has been expressed well on both sides. But...

There is no substitute for alightsaber and short lightsaber in the off hand.

Not only can you buff your stats like crazy, but the attack bonus vs the to hit bonus is just insane.

That aside you can buff each light sabre with more than just stat buffs. You can have numerous situational buffs as well.

Pluses to crits, ion damage, massive crits etc.

You can flat out do more for less, for having 2 lightsabres. End of discussion.

Those extra crystals let you have so much more variation, and consequently, let you do so much more. Even just having two lightsabres, gives you so much more damage potential...

If you think otherwise, then you really need to go back and play the game again. Only do it how WE are saying.

I've been playing since it released on XBOX btw. Before the restored content mod.

I added more earlier, but suffice to say I had to take it out.

I'll consider what you're saying but the gist of what I was saying is you can do quite well with a double blade saber if your strength is high enough (or probably Dueling as Dave is saying, for a Jedi Weapon Master).

But hey, I'll give your method a shot and see what results I get at some point. Also been playing since Xbox era so good to see another one of us. :)

I will not dispute that there are bonuses no matter how you choose to make your build. I'm simply saying that you can have a single handed sabre with your character crystal, an emitter and whatever else. Plus another sabre, and a short sabre is balanced for the off hand, meaning at the highest level of two weapon mastery there is almost no penalty. Sure you don't get the single big attack bonus of having a single sabre, but you get to add in an extra crystal, emitter and what have you.

When you have the highest rank in two weapon fighting, the penalties are far offset by the high rank gear you can equip to both sabres.

[DOOMed]

Also, there is no point in strength other than a damage bonus. You can get a hit bonus from it, but you can also get the same hit bonus from finesse. When using a two sabre set up, the second sabre mitigates the damage shortfall from lower strength.

Ignoring dex is a mistake. Unless you are using a Guardian.

[Emmental]

So I made a 'traditional' high dexterity dual wielder in a 1920's rich womans bathrobe. Same class, same level, same situation as my duelist.

So this is the character fully buffed.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2066574831

This is the attack modifier and damage.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2066574886

This is an average round.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2066576362

You can get close to a one shot with a double crit.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2066579288

But I HAD to get a TRIPLE crit to one shot him.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2066577983

The icing on the cake, even with 65 defense I still got hit about 1 in 5 times.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2066579642

I would really love to hear how this....
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2066579288

Is better than this...
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2062299140

[Sith_Lady]

I used just one lightsaber for a while, but eventually I figured out that I should use two. I played it again and I chose to first get a double and it was better than one or two. This is just coming from someone who has only finished the game once, though.

[DOOMed]

引用自 Dave：

I decided to beat up the greater storm beast with a duelist using the Shien form and flurry. His equipment wasn't perfect for this playthrough as I was a bit unlucky with drops but it's good enough.

This is the character I was using fully buffed.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2062320463

This is the attack modifier and damage.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2062320421

This is an average round.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2062300561

This was a nice double crit.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2062299140

I thought this one was funny because I still one shot him with a miss
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2062300750

And which mod/cheat engine are you using there Dave?

Seeing as if you simply playthrough with no mods (or just the restored content mod), there are few and far between ways you can reach those stats?

Especially being under the duration of a day.

Also, I might note that you equipped your sentinel with dex restrictive armour.

You can be a cheat, that much is obvious anyway, but to be misleading...

[DOOMed]

引用自 Mattmoo：

引用自 Get Some!：

Also, there is no point in strength other than a damage bonus. You can get a hit bonus from it, but you can also get the same hit bonus from finesse. When using a two sabre set up, the second sabre mitigates the damage shortfall from lower strength.

Ignoring dex is a mistake. Unless you are using a Guardian.

It’s not a mistake - I would say it’s a gameplay choice, and keep in mind I usually get all the blaster deflection feats and powers.

As for defeating enemies in melee, the Master Barrier power soaks you a lot of damage. Once you kill your enemy, there’s not much to worry about and being hit in this game isn’t the end. Having a higher dex doesn’t particularly reduce the damage you receive when you take measures to protect yourself (I don’t use shields though). As I said you can heal after each fight, no big deal.

I can accept that, though if you have a second lightsbre you can stack deflect on your sabres. As well as other stats and damages.

I'll ignore Dave because he is obviously cheating to validate his points.