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Chimpster Oct 11, 2012 @ 8:28am
Why would ANYONE save "him?!" [SPOILERS]
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Ben is/was the biggest liability the group ever had. The deaths in episode 3 & 4 came as a direct result of his actions.

First off he negotiates with the bandits behind the groups back causing them to have to abandon a safe(ish) position. This directly leads to the deaths of half the chuffing group!

Every time you try and leave him in ANY position of responsibility or trust, he fails dramatically in episode 4. The moment he left Clem surrounded by walkers was the moment I would have happy punched him out if it was an option. Then he screws up baby sitting duties to let her out on her blumming own. Having failed to open a locked door, he then compounds his re tardation by removing the axe from the door - leading to yet another death in the party.

When Clem is out performing him in the useful front, why on earth would anyone NOT let him plummet to his deserved death? What on earth would make you think that he could be useful in episode 5, THE GUY IS A MENACE!
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Wamo Oct 11, 2012 @ 8:51am 
I agree. Maybe if the survivors were in some sort of secure, permanent home he could be put to work doing something menial but being on the move and have to watch your back constantly? No way do I want him around. I let him drop.
Mr. Feet Oct 11, 2012 @ 8:56am 
I dropped his ass harder then a modern sitcom.
GrimDarkFuture Oct 11, 2012 @ 9:10am 
You are the team. No matter what. And he is one of you. Leaving a part of your group won't do. It's not his fault that some people have died, as you say, because of him. It's because of them, too.
I've left him alive. More than that, i've brought him with me to ep. 5. And all the rest of the group.
I believe if someone is a part of my team, he'll die only in a case where I have nothing to do with this.
Jork Oct 11, 2012 @ 9:20am 
I let Ben go, and I didn't think much of it at first. I tried to be lenient, and he may have postponed the bandits originally, but he was becoming a huge burden and proved he wasn't reliable at every given opportunity. He couldn't even keep an eye on Clementine FFS!

I really regretted my decision though after Clementine said she understood why Ben chose to not be saved considering the situation, and how her mom taught her that people who "think of others before themself" makes them a good person. Made me feel like a complete d-bag especially considering the truth was I could've saved him anyway. He was just a kid who felt like complete ♥♥♥♥ over everything and wanted to die in the spur of the moment, and like a bastard I obliged.

Letting him go was actually the very first choice I've made that I feel wrong about. It was done out of pent up frustration over his stupidity and it was wrong of me to act on negative impulse like that.
Scorpius Oct 11, 2012 @ 9:33am 
you never know, there might always be a change of game - also: if i had someone hanging from and depending on my hand i probably wouldn't let go! i did in the game though. but if you are fully emerged in the game you might keep holding on to him despite his errors, he's still a kid and picture yourself in his case...he at least had the guts to spill the beans and to be honest
Chimpster Oct 11, 2012 @ 9:35am 
Spilling the beans when a horde of zombies (that he let in) is trying to get in the room is perhaps not the best idea. Guts or no, the guy was way too stupid to live.
Jork Oct 11, 2012 @ 9:46am 
Honestly I can understand why he spilled the beans even if it was in the worst possible moment, I'm about Ben's age and I've had a lot of stuff eat away at me that literally KILLS me keeping secret when I consider it something that has to be said. Maybe it's just a "dumb kid" thing but I've done the same exact thing in real life at very bad times because I couldn't wait any longer to get it off my chest.

With that in mind, it's yet another reason why I feel so bad about letting Ben go because I can relate to him in that regard, although I'm not useless like he is in every other regard. I had originally planned to not take him with us on the boat, but damn, I didn't have to go so far as to let him fall.
Ash Oct 11, 2012 @ 10:12am 
I don't understand why anyone wouldn't drop him either. We need space on the boat. He asked for it. AND he kept putting the group in terrible danger. The only reason I thought about it for a second is because I told Clem she gets a vote and she said she liked him and wanted to keep him.
anaphylactic god Oct 11, 2012 @ 10:37am 
"why would anyone save him?" may be because he is a human being?
episode 4 has some dumb decisions but "kill Ben just-becouse-you-can" wtf who the hell write this stuff? i mean if Ben realy makes things worse why dont Telltale add option to get rid of him? without throwing him in the pit of death
for last two episodes i cant remember any important decision Lee can make, and i'm kinda dissapointed at telltale
tazius Oct 11, 2012 @ 12:02pm 
I agree on the fact that he's so annoying he makes me want to just lose it in his face. But, as angry as he makes me, I would never let someone drop like that. I don't think I would ever sacrifice another person just because they've made mistakes. If he was older I think I would've just kicked him from the group, but he's essentially just a kid. He made mistakes, they were very costly mistakes but they were mistakes - not intentional, vindictive behaviour like some of the others have displayed.
Plot Seeker Oct 11, 2012 @ 12:27pm 
I actually wanted to keep him alive so that I can kick his sorry butt of the boat when the time comes. Then we can ride of into the sunset on the boat seeing him being devoured :D
Jork Oct 11, 2012 @ 12:28pm 
It's not like his sacrifice was needed anyway, it's pointless since you can just pull him up and you're freakin' talking to him for 30 seconds about how "there is no time." when there clearly is since you just spent those aforementioned 30 seconds talking to him.
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McFly Oct 11, 2012 @ 12:28pm 
He's a kid, a terrifyingly stupid kid, but he still has time to growup make something better of himself.

Also I like calling him shaggy and berating him out loud every time he's on screen.
Rikibug Oct 11, 2012 @ 1:30pm 
I admit, at the start of the episode I was screaming something along the lines of him becoming "Walkerbait" at the first oppourtunity... Then when it came down to it, I thought of how Clem would look at Lee, if Lee had let go. Clem sees the good in everyone, but I didnt want to be the one responsible for making her see someone else die, especially after the look on her face when Lee had to bury the little boy... So as much as I hate Bens guts for everything he has done to the group, and the deaths that have all been down to him, allowing him to die would diminish the trust Clem has in Lee, and right now that is all she has.
TelltaleGames are really doing a good job at keeping the choices in the moral "grey" area so to speak. People can talk a good game, but if it really came down to it, Morals usually take over.. least mine did.
Chamo Oct 11, 2012 @ 1:41pm 
I saved him because he is just a kid and I felt sorry for him when I couldn't save his friend or teacher.
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