I'm not liking the way this game is heading. (Rant)

[R3AKT3M]

I really don't like this game's future of just nuking every room in a dungeon with ability powers. The dev's keep saying the game is run and gun yet it feels like they keep emphasizing character abilities. Freyna is a great example of this as all she has to do is press her first ability and everything dies and she doesn't actually have to play beyond that for most content.

Now they're trying to balance everyone around Freyna because they are too scared of loosing the players that play her just because they DON'T have to play the game.

I do like Ines's Kit because I get to do so many things do deal damage. But there's no reason she has to instant kill everything like Freyna. The game was way more fun when it first came out and everyone could build what ever they liked and still be able to do the dungeon or colossus. But now its all about how fast you can kill the colossus or how fast you can run the dungeon. (The new endgame is literally a race against the clock) Because of that now we have to do absurd amounts of grinding for each little piece of content because the farming in this game is all about doing the same thing hundreds of times so it's no wonder the game ended up like this.

It's exhausting, why am I not allowed to play a character the way I want to without being punished? Creative and fun builds are being lost to which ones are the MOST MIN/MAXED and PERFECT for this SPECIFIC content.

-p.s.
Some after thoughts. I think the part I'm missing the most is just the meta shift from co-op play to solo. It was fun doing stuff with other players. But being encouraged to run everything private is also hurting this game's matchmaking.

[RiseM]

Ines is even more powercreep than Freyna now. She can obliterate rooms faster than Freyna. And I completely agree, many people ignore the core problem - game going into minmax territory, where the only viable build for new content is the best DPS build. You either make it in DPS check time, or you fail. Thats terrible concept.

Its fun for some time, but gets boring. Also the IW and Defiler are both pure DPS check content too. And a very narrow one. You can clear Defiler in almost 9 minutes with Yujin, I saw a screenshot, and around 10-30 seconds with Ines\Gley top builds. Thats not a meassure for content.

[Jundah 101]

Originally posted by RiseM:

Ines is even more powercreep than Freyna now. She can obliterate rooms faster than Freyna. And I completely agree, many people ignore the core problem - game going into minmax territory, where the only viable build for new content is the best DPS build. You either make it in DPS check time, or you fail. Thats terrible concept.

Its fun for some time, but gets boring. Also the IW and Defiler are both pure DPS check content too. And a very narrow one. You can clear Defiler in almost 9 minutes with Yujin, I saw a screenshot, and around 10-30 seconds with Ines\Gley top builds. Thats not a meassure for content.

the gley 10s or less is a bug exploit, also ines 30s is pure crit RNG, ines run can range from 30s to 2min depend on your crit RNG and boss pattern RNG. so far the most consistent one for me is bunny with 1min20s -1min50s

[RiseM]

Originally posted by Jundah 101:

Originally posted by RiseM:

Ines is even more powercreep than Freyna now. She can obliterate rooms faster than Freyna. And I completely agree, many people ignore the core problem - game going into minmax territory, where the only viable build for new content is the best DPS build. You either make it in DPS check time, or you fail. Thats terrible concept.

Its fun for some time, but gets boring. Also the IW and Defiler are both pure DPS check content too. And a very narrow one. You can clear Defiler in almost 9 minutes with Yujin, I saw a screenshot, and around 10-30 seconds with Ines\Gley top builds. Thats not a meassure for content.

the gley 10s or less is a bug exploit, also ines 30s is pure crit RNG, ines run can range from 30s to 2min depend on your crit RNG and boss pattern RNG. so far the most consistent one for me is bunny with 1min20s -1min50s

Whats the Bunny build? Not crit? Because I tried Bunny and it was terrible. Ines has 100% crit rate, so its power minmaxing. Crits are always the same with top crit build.

[jvjd]

When it first came out , it was all about bunny . Basically the poster child of TFD . Why even shoot your weapon ??

The game about finishing things faster because one the content is not hard enough and two there is a lot to grind .So players are going to find the fastest way to do stuff regardless.

When Players actually gave feedback about this of having an even playing field and better diversity , the devs said everything is fine and you can expect new metas moving forward

[Jundah 101]

Originally posted by RiseM:

Originally posted by Jundah 101:

the gley 10s or less is a bug exploit, also ines 30s is pure crit RNG, ines run can range from 30s to 2min depend on your crit RNG and boss pattern RNG. so far the most consistent one for me is bunny with 1min20s -1min50s

Whats the Bunny build? Not crit? Because I tried Bunny and it was terrible. Ines has 100% crit rate, so its power minmaxing. Crits are always the same with top crit build.

non crit bunny + high voltage + antivenom , pretty simple , my reactor is lvl4 atm with electrict bonus + colossus + slayer set with max MP and max HP role

[R3AKT3M]

Originally posted by jvjd:

When it first came out , it was all about bunny . Basically the poster child of TFD . Why even shoot your weapon ??

The game about finishing things faster because one the content is not hard enough and two there is a lot to grind .So players are going to find the fastest way to do stuff regardless.

When Players actually gave feedback about this of having an even playing field and better diversity , the devs said everything is fine and you can expect new metas moving forward

I personally had no problem with bunny. I played valby mostly. I'm def not a fan of the direction though and I personally think it started with Freyna.

p.s
I bought ult freyna and now I don't touch her because I hate how she plays. Press 1

[Jundah 101]

Originally posted by R3AKT3M:

Originally posted by jvjd:

When it first came out , it was all about bunny . Basically the poster child of TFD . Why even shoot your weapon ??

The game about finishing things faster because one the content is not hard enough and two there is a lot to grind .So players are going to find the fastest way to do stuff regardless.

When Players actually gave feedback about this of having an even playing field and better diversity , the devs said everything is fine and you can expect new metas moving forward

I personally had no problem with bunny. I played valby mostly. I'm def not a fan of the direction though and I personally think it started with Freyna.

it started with 400% dungeon , dev saw how everyone love 400% dungeon and ask for more similar content like that, so thats why they just giga buff enemy spawn rate and numbers to have similar ad density as 400% dungeon, the whole debate with bunny already happen in season 0 and the majority of player just say "well just give us more enemy so bunny cant kill everyone" and well now they got freyna who scale off enemy density so that became a problem, and so season 2 introduce ability immunity shield for enemies + less enemy density but tougher per enemy, and of course because of that everyone flock to ines who hits like a truck and have good enough range to clear this lvl of ads density

[Echo2Omega]

I am having more fun now than before.

Abyss boss can be challenging.
Quite a few characters can drop it in under a minute easily though.

But in typical internet fashion 34 second kill time good.
35 seconds kill time garbage tier.



Same with the Void Erosion.
It is a good challenge. Especially on 20.
Again. Several descendants can clear it quickly.

And yet again. Typical internet fashion.
4:22 clear time with Ines good.
4:23 clear time Bunny, Valby, Esiemo, Blair, or Sharen garbage tier.

[R3AKT3M]

Originally posted by Jundah 101:

Originally posted by R3AKT3M:

I personally had no problem with bunny. I played valby mostly. I'm def not a fan of the direction though and I personally think it started with Freyna.

it started with 400% dungeon , dev saw how everyone love 400% dungeon and ask for more similar content like that, so thats why they just giga buff enemy spawn rate and numbers to have similar ad density as 400% dungeon, the whole debate with bunny already happen in season 0 and the majority of player just say "well just give us more enemy so bunny cant kill everyone" and well now they got freyna who scale off enemy density so that became a problem, and so season 2 introduce ability immunity shield for enemies + less enemy density but tougher per enemy, and of course because of that everyone flock to ines who hits like a truck and have good enough range to clear this lvl of ads density

I personally mind less about a character wiping a dungeon if you have to actively play them to get there. Bunny you did have to pay attention to where you were running, Valby you had to spread your water and place it correctly. But freyna presses 1 button and the nukes everything while afk watching youtube or something.

So ines is better in that regards. But I hope we either get content that lets us play like we did before Freyna or they bring everything down a notch.

[Dr. Peppermill]

Originally posted by Echo2Omega:

I am having more fun now than before.

Fun ? Do the abyss boss and erosion hundreds of times like me, then talk about fun. It’s more like a job without a pay, not fun. Each new update ads more stuff that requires more grinding than the previous one.

I know nobody is forcing me to do this but that’s the only thing that remains for me. Maybe it’s time to quit completely, 1400 hrs. in a single game is more than enough.

[R3AKT3M]

Originally posted by Dr. Peppermill:

Fun ? Do the abyss boss and erosion hundreds of time like me, then talk about fun. It’s more like a job without a pay, not fun,

I know nobody is forcing me to do this but that’s the only thing that remains for me.
Maybe it’s time to quit completely, 1400 hrs. in a single game is more than enough.

Exactly. The game is super grindy, which It makes sense. The game doesn't really have that much content.

[Dr. Peppermill]

Originally posted by R3AKT3M:

Originally posted by Dr. Peppermill:

Fun ? Do the abyss boss and erosion hundreds of time like me, then talk about fun. It’s more like a job without a pay, not fun,

I know nobody is forcing me to do this but that’s the only thing that remains for me.
Maybe it’s time to quit completely, 1400 hrs. in a single game is more than enough.

Exactly. The game is super grindy, which It makes sense. The game doesn't really have that much content.

The game has quite a small amount of content which you’re supposed to repeat hundreds of times. For high level old players 95% of this content is irrelevant. I play only a few activities that are routine for me, not fun, and I’m not sure why I still bother with this instead of playing other games.

[Volfer]

Originally posted by RiseM:

Ines is even more powercreep than Freyna now. She can obliterate rooms faster than Freyna. And I completely agree, many people ignore the core problem - game going into minmax territory, where the only viable build for new content is the best DPS build. You either make it in DPS check time, or you fail. Thats terrible concept.

Its fun for some time, but gets boring. Also the IW and Defiler are both pure DPS check content too. And a very narrow one. You can clear Defiler in almost 9 minutes with Yujin, I saw a screenshot, and around 10-30 seconds with Ines\Gley top builds. Thats not a meassure for content.

This was always the case? Where were you during the Betas?
This "team" (its 3-5 people that pump content via the AI-assist tools you can hook into UE-5, hence the "content" is so broken" never listened to the community
- Colossi mechanics are joke - past Gravewalker, everything is a joke if done IN level with gear you found from leveling/farming
- Every colossi after Grave Walker even all the way in Crossplay Beta was not beaten with mechanics or builds - it was either overpowered by ITEM level and/or BROKEN skill/abuse
Nothing of the pain points expressed by many Xplay Beta players were addressed at all for a long time.
- This game has the smell of AI generated MOBILE GAME slop - mobile games tend to do "harder" content in that exact manner, and they also in the past 3 years are "coded" and "Created" with heavy AI usage.
Also look at their typical hypocritical behavior
-Community : This is a looter-shooter, we are not doing much shooting, weapons need to feel more powerful
- very very few real fixes , promised big fix
- locked behind BULLET SPONGE BOB SQUARE COLOSSI (with abysmall droprate)
- And 400% dungeons with even more laughable drop rate
This is TYPICAl Magnum Studio/Nexon fix from the start of this game.
Shall I remind you some of their greatest hits ?
- Problem raised by players (PRBP for short) - Materials are dropping in laughable quantity or not dropping at all
- Magnum FIX (FIX for short) - "We raised the drops of materials by 1.5x on all difficulties and modes" .....HARD mode drops LESS because for SOME reason another band aid fix - THE JACKED UP REACTOR drop rate IN HARD MODE shares loot table with MATERIALS
- PRP - Please fix reactor farming - Reactor drops are a mess now due to ROTATING and FIXED drop locations
- FIX - REACTOR IMPLANT - CANNOT REPLACE #1 OPTION NO MATTER what, CANNOT MOVE ENTIRE TRIO IMPLANT to a new reactor ON TOP of drop location being a mess
- PRP - We want more reasonable DROP rates
- FIX - OK , parts will drop more frequent , but then you will have to do 200 runs of NORMAL MODE SLOGFEST dungeon (Hammer & Anvil and Ulti Sharen NEW MATERIAL farm)

By the way do you notice there are no new skins for ultimate descendants with this update ? This should tell you ... scratch that - this should SCREAM VOLUMES
My wild guess - S3 and sunset.

[Dr. Peppermill]

S3 and sunset is fine for me, I have plenty of games on my wish list.

[Echo2Omega]

Originally posted by Volfer:

...too long didn't care.

If there are so many things wrong...
How come you are still playing?

Time to get over it and move on.