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Ines discussion - bossing
So I like many people today finished Ines and leveled her a bit. She melts 400% faster than anything before her, that’s great. Her 3rd ability is most interesting, since it large crit damage multiplier. On unmodded Ines I did over 2 mil crit, it’s definitely going to be good on Defiler. But the question is - how sustainable she is on boss? Anyone tried her yet on him?

Also preferred bossing build is power-no-crit or full crit? Since she is definitely can go both ways.

Suggestions and personal experience are welcome!
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trick question, her 3rd is not for bossing due to requiring the custom resource that need a lot of enemies to filled up cause it wont increase if the enemy already have conductor debuff on em so on bossing you wait till the boss spawn ads which is bad

on the other hand, her 1st skill is her bread and butter best single target DPS similar to valby , just spam em, get close enough so the bounce is faster , and use her red module that change her arche type to tech so you can stack buff with secret garden, at least thats what i like to do thus far
Grimzy Jan 17 @ 4:38pm 
Originally posted by RiseM:
So I like many people today finished Ines and leveled her a bit. She melts 400% faster than anything before her, that’s great. Her 3rd ability is most interesting, since it large crit damage multiplier. On unmodded Ines I did over 2 mil crit, it’s definitely going to be good on Defiler. But the question is - how sustainable she is on boss? Anyone tried her yet on him?

Also preferred bossing build is power-no-crit or full crit? Since she is definitely can go both ways.

Suggestions and personal experience are welcome!

If you plan on using her abilities, you need to build her crit because that is what her passive needs to restore MP.
Also Transcendent module changes her 3 ability.

If you built her good, and the luck of crit is on your side, she is very sustainable.
RiseM Jan 17 @ 4:55pm 
Originally posted by Grimzy:
Originally posted by RiseM:
So I like many people today finished Ines and leveled her a bit. She melts 400% faster than anything before her, that’s great. Her 3rd ability is most interesting, since it large crit damage multiplier. On unmodded Ines I did over 2 mil crit, it’s definitely going to be good on Defiler. But the question is - how sustainable she is on boss? Anyone tried her yet on him?

Also preferred bossing build is power-no-crit or full crit? Since she is definitely can go both ways.

Suggestions and personal experience are welcome!

If you plan on using her abilities, you need to build her crit because that is what her passive needs to restore MP.
Also Transcendent module changes her 3 ability.

If you built her good, and the luck of crit is on your side, she is very sustainable.
You tried her on boss? I’m planning to build her up before doing it. Jundah 101 is right - she can’t build up plasma without mobs, so I can’t say how good she will perform on a boss.
Originally posted by RiseM:
Originally posted by Grimzy:

If you plan on using her abilities, you need to build her crit because that is what her passive needs to restore MP.
Also Transcendent module changes her 3 ability.

If you built her good, and the luck of crit is on your side, she is very sustainable.
You tried her on boss? I’m planning to build her up before doing it. Jundah 101 is right - she can’t build up plasma without mobs, so I can’t say how good she will perform on a boss.

I already have a build for her destroying Defiler in 30 seconds. She is very good for mobbing and bossing, big surprise.
RiseM Jan 17 @ 5:48pm 
Originally posted by vectorViridian:
Originally posted by RiseM:
You tried her on boss? I’m planning to build her up before doing it. Jundah 101 is right - she can’t build up plasma without mobs, so I can’t say how good she will perform on a boss.

I already have a build for her destroying Defiler in 30 seconds. She is very good for mobbing and bossing, big surprise.
What’s the build? Crit based? And what skill you use? 30 seconds sounds awesome.
Surprisingly not as good as Valby:
https://youtu.be/KItzdaew75Y?si=v_E8RUDrryR-Rq1c
But still fast.
jvjd Jan 17 @ 9:53pm 
She is made with Freyna in mind , so she gonna be good
Phazon Jan 17 @ 10:15pm 
building around her plasma ball mod seems the way to go for strictly bosses. you aren't able to build enough of her custom resource to make her standard level build that excels in everything but colossus battles. there are a few builds out there already where you can solo defiler with her in around the 1:30m mark.
Originally posted by It is my CAT:
Surprisingly not as good as Valby:
https://youtu.be/KItzdaew75Y?si=v_E8RUDrryR-Rq1c
But still fast.

So I took this one as well as a similar build that is more cool down focused, going to see which is better. Still need to get that trans mod though. So far, Ines is amazing and probably the best or one of the best characters, easily.
jvjd Jan 18 @ 11:35am 
She is as crazy as freyna but I feel she is a bit better at bossing since she does not need to change her build around to make it work and all her damage is front loaded with a shorter CD .

cast conductor on boss and hit her 3 rinse and repeat
Last edited by jvjd; Jan 18 @ 11:35am
Originally posted by Phazon:
building around her plasma ball mod seems the way to go for strictly bosses. you aren't able to build enough of her custom resource to make her standard level build that excels in everything but colossus battles. there are a few builds out there already where you can solo defiler with her in around the 1:30m mark.

People use her first skill for bosses, which doesn’t need any custom resources.
Originally posted by It is my CAT:
Surprisingly not as good as Valby:
https://youtu.be/KItzdaew75Y?si=v_E8RUDrryR-Rq1c
But still fast.

I’m very far from this but i can kill him reliably i.e. every time with Ines for 1:30-2 minutes (1m 15s record).
My reactor is not fully upgraded and doesn’t have dmg. against Colossus.
Also, I prefer safety over meta-stuff, I don’t use Slayer set and Dangerous Ambush, I use Perfect Antivenom + Increased HP instead of modules that would speed up the process.
For me 100 seconds @ 100% success rate is better than 30s at very high risk. I may try the build from the video but I’m not sure I’ll survive with it.

PS
The cooldown of her first ability is better than Valby’s, mine boss build has 1.0s. It can be even better with Annihilation set but there is no point.
Last edited by Dr. Peppermill; Jan 18 @ 4:12pm
Dacks Jan 18 @ 10:20pm 
I average 40 seconds with my Ines. I went with the Hounds Trans Mod, Slayer Set and a Dual Gold Range/Crit Damage Tech reactor for 1 extra bounce on my 1 with my build. Hell of a lot less stressful than public but it can get boring.
Originally posted by Dr. Peppermill:

I’m very far from this but i can kill him reliably i.e. every time with Ines for 1:30-2 minutes (1m 15s record).
My reactor is not fully upgraded and doesn’t have dmg. against Colossus.
Also, I prefer safety over meta-stuff, I don’t use Slayer set and Dangerous Ambush, I use Perfect Antivenom + Increased HP instead of modules that would speed up the process.
For me 100 seconds @ 100% success rate is better than 30s at very high risk. I may try the build from the video but I’m not sure I’ll survive with it.

PS
The cooldown of her first ability is better than Valby’s, mine boss build has 1.0s. It can be even better with Annihilation set but there is no point.
I always play with Slayer set, just get used to it. No matter what character I use.
I noticed playing Yujin, than in pubs Ines receive huge damage near boss. Looks like her skills has short range + she is not as mobile as many thinks. Or, maybe, ppl just don't play her well rn.
Last edited by It is my CAT; Jan 18 @ 10:37pm
Dacks Jan 19 @ 1:14pm 
Originally posted by It is my CAT:
Originally posted by Dr. Peppermill:

I’m very far from this but i can kill him reliably i.e. every time with Ines for 1:30-2 minutes (1m 15s record).
My reactor is not fully upgraded and doesn’t have dmg. against Colossus.
Also, I prefer safety over meta-stuff, I don’t use Slayer set and Dangerous Ambush, I use Perfect Antivenom + Increased HP instead of modules that would speed up the process.
For me 100 seconds @ 100% success rate is better than 30s at very high risk. I may try the build from the video but I’m not sure I’ll survive with it.

PS
The cooldown of her first ability is better than Valby’s, mine boss build has 1.0s. It can be even better with Annihilation set but there is no point.
I always play with Slayer set, just get used to it. No matter what character I use.
I noticed playing Yujin, than in pubs Ines receive huge damage near boss. Looks like her skills has short range + she is not as mobile as many thinks. Or, maybe, ppl just don't play her well rn.
With Ines the closer you are to your target the faster your bounces are moving between you and your target= faster DPS. I run behind him right on his feet so that I have a constant amount of DPS going as fast as possible.
You just have to remember when he jolts forward and has purple spray coming out of him he shoots some in the air signaling that you have 5 green floor pools coming to dodge and if he starts to lean over you need to grapple or jump away as fast as possible to avoid the purple vomit. When all that is over get back under and behind his feet.
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