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Is Valby a new meta for EVERY Abyss solo boss?
Since she don't have any weakness being non-attribute and can spam her balls and melt every boss solo.
It is harder, probably, in team, since boss move around and focus other players as well.

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Xeretrax Jan 17 @ 9:12am 
Seems to be yes, however her succes/damage seems to be quite depending on 1 of the harder guns to get atm. Peacemaker, for which you need to do a boss most people struggle with already, even solo, without the same gun to begin with.
Originally posted by Xeretrax:
Seems to be yes, however her succes/damage seems to be quite depending on 1 of the harder guns to get atm. Peacemaker, for which you need to do a boss most people struggle with already, even solo, without the same gun to begin with.
I think, it still more viable than upgrading dedicated descendant + weapons too. Like Hailey needs Perforator, for example. Bunny for Defiler needs nothing. It can be done just with EL. But I use shotgun too for first part of fight - until ammo is gone)

Next Abyss boss will be Electric (Pyro type body) or Chill (Beauty&Bride).
For Electric Freyna can be enough.
But for Cold boss Lepic may be too fragile. Not to mention that with high resistance to skill crit he may be completely useless. And we still don't have any fire girl. Many hot, but not fire)
jvjd Jan 17 @ 1:57pm 
Don;t know about abyss but she is definitely insane in void erosion
Originally posted by jvjd:
Don;t know about abyss but she is definitely insane in void erosion
Well, if she can kill Defiler in 20 sec, than, of course, any other mode is joke)
Xeretrax Jan 17 @ 5:38pm 
Originally posted by It is my CAT:
Originally posted by Xeretrax:
Seems to be yes, however her succes/damage seems to be quite depending on 1 of the harder guns to get atm. Peacemaker, for which you need to do a boss most people struggle with already, even solo, without the same gun to begin with.
I think, it still more viable than upgrading dedicated descendant + weapons too. Like Hailey needs Perforator, for example. Bunny for Defiler needs nothing. It can be done just with EL. But I use shotgun too for first part of fight - until ammo is gone)

Next Abyss boss will be Electric (Pyro type body) or Chill (Beauty&Bride).
For Electric Freyna can be enough.
But for Cold boss Lepic may be too fragile. Not to mention that with high resistance to skill crit he may be completely useless. And we still don't have any fire girl. Many hot, but not fire)

Tbh, looking at Hailey and now Ines, I think the firegirl should be able to unless they really screw her up, like with mechanics people hate to use ..like Luna has etc.
I think they will release at the same time as well, 2nd part of S3.
Adikos Jan 17 @ 7:24pm 
Valby + Peacemaker could kill all bosses solo since I remember. Now we just have more solo bosses
Originally posted by Adikos:
Valby + Peacemaker could kill all bosses solo since I remember. Now we just have more solo bosses
Yeah, i somehow missed that point)
Rogue Jan 17 @ 8:07pm 
It's more of a skill issue. Unable to select appropriate descendants to kill it fast solo. Valby, Bunny, Sharen, Ines, Freyna, etc all work. It's just once again down to sub 30 seconds kill for "hard" content.

Defiler himself don't deal a lot of damage most of the time unlike Infernal walker with constant homing ranged attacks. Shocker, it's weak to electric attacks, shocker that even now people don't read the info sheet about the colossus.

Stop copy pasta builds and at least think for yourself, man. Again remember this is "hard" content....zzzZ. Even the void purge is plagued with mediocrity for random co-op.
Last edited by Rogue; Jan 17 @ 8:14pm
Originally posted by Rogue:
It's more of a skill issue. Unable to select appropriate descendants to kill it fast solo. Valby, Bunny, Sharen, Ines, Freyna, etc all work. It's just once again down to sub 30 seconds kill for "hard" content.

Defiler himself don't deal a lot of damage most of the time unlike Infernal walker with constant homing ranged attacks. Shocker, it's weak to electric attacks, shocker that even now people don't read the info sheet about the colossus.

Stop copy pasta builds and at least think for yourself, man. Again remember this is "hard" content....zzzZ. Even the void purge is plagued with mediocrity for random co-op.
What are you babbling about? I kill every Infernal boss day one. You are clearly have read issues.
Not in a single sentence there was something about "hard".
Rogue Jan 18 @ 5:43am 
Originally posted by It is my CAT:
Originally posted by Rogue:
It's more of a skill issue. Unable to select appropriate descendants to kill it fast solo. Valby, Bunny, Sharen, Ines, Freyna, etc all work. It's just once again down to sub 30 seconds kill for "hard" content.

Defiler himself don't deal a lot of damage most of the time unlike Infernal walker with constant homing ranged attacks. Shocker, it's weak to electric attacks, shocker that even now people don't read the info sheet about the colossus.

Stop copy pasta builds and at least think for yourself, man. Again remember this is "hard" content....zzzZ. Even the void purge is plagued with mediocrity for random co-op.
What are you babbling about? I kill every Infernal boss day one. You are clearly have read issues.
Not in a single sentence there was something about "hard".

Skill issue. Every wannabe wannabe valby now, especially based on your rabid promotion of her in recent threads. The meta is the person with the best appropriate mods and skill to execute it, not just because of descendant. Copy pasta mediocre will always be mediocre. Worse, the copy pasta can't handle solo, went to co-op and made it worse.

For example, there's a valby without the "precious" peacemaker and killing defiler under 30s. Or Hailey without perforator doing it. Most copy pasta content creator also promotes "safe" bunny. zzzzZ.

Stop being a meta slave. Learn how to build your descendant properly.
Originally posted by Rogue:
Stop being a meta slave. Learn how to build your descendant properly.
I am always tweaking meta build for my liking. The only thing that I didn't modify is Lepic. Even here you can use different guns, but overall it doesn't matter. This game does not have variety in builds. You rather aiming for crit build or for non-crit.

The main reason of that topic was to highlight how flawed these "hard" bosses are.

Before I was using Lepic for ice bosses, Hailey for everything else. But now you just need only Valby.
It doesn't feel quite right to me. While ppl still in honey moon with Ines, you, actually, don't need new other descendants at all. It is quite concerning. I am not saying that Valby must be nerfed, of course.
Last edited by It is my CAT; Jan 18 @ 6:18am
Poljanan Jan 18 @ 7:03am 
For Valby's laundry bomb, imo, I would bring back her enemy sucking abilities, reduce firing rate by half and special ammo to only 4 or 6 instead of 20, slow down damage ticks but increase the damage of each tick, like about 30%. Make it so that the bubble slowly vacuums nearby enemies toward it, deals damage to anyone inside it, then big damage when the duration ends. For some fun physics, they could even make it so that sucked enemies get thrown away or scattered when the bubble bursts.

For colossi, instead of being sucked, they instead get slowed as long as a part of their body is inside the bubble, so that the bubble still acts as a form of debuff/movement control.

See, not everything has to be about big numbers.
Last edited by Poljanan; Jan 18 @ 7:05am
feline (Banned) Jan 18 @ 7:48am 
Originally posted by It is my CAT:
Since she don't have any weakness being non-attribute and can spam her balls and melt every boss solo.
It is harder, probably, in team, since boss move around and focus other players as well.
Valby is good on her New giant main cannon or skill 4. for void erosin :0 .
but :v

Valby still poor @ boss always :0

but Valby outfit is look good :3 so all is good still :o
Xeretrax Jan 18 @ 7:59am 
Originally posted by Rogue:

Stop being a meta slave. Learn how to build your descendant properly.

You are kind off contradicting yourself here.

Some random guide from the internet, no matter how good or bad it may be, has nothing to do with it being "meta".

Obviously you want to build the best possible for you.
Whether that's more to your own play style or just the best possible stats and damage etc. copied from a content creator who did all the numbers or whatever, either way it does not matter, you end up with your own meta.
lackesis Jan 18 @ 9:26am 
Valby 20 seconds how? youtube video link?
My best time was 50 sec, you have to be very very lucky and it's very very inconsistent.
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