is 2.5k HP + 15K DEF bad?

[Max]

title whitch good ration for ice girl and gley on current time?

[Hybernian]

10-20k HP and 20-30k DEF is the way to go in HM

[DEGU!]

go for MAX HP and dont bother with DEF

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB28ilEAOno&t=518s

[Monk]

If you are beyond half way through the story, yes, it's awful.

But,, I'll explain why.

HP is King.

You get far more survivability from health than anything else, so you should only mod for defence once you have 2 health mods same goes for resists, as most dmg is physical id say defence is more important than resists.

Shields largely suck outside of Kyle, maybe Enzo and if you are using what I am sure is a bugged ajax build.

As for components, again, you want HP first, id say you want to aim for a minimum of 10k health on any character.

[Max]

Ok I see , so I need a module for my character then equip theses HP.

currently did the equipment gona to level up that HP hero module .

[Max]

Originally posted by Monk:

If you are beyond half way through the story, yes, it's awful.

But,, I'll explain why.

HP is King.

You get far more survivability from health than anything else, so you should only mod for defence once you have 2 health mods same goes for resists, as most dmg is physical id say defence is more important than resists.

Shields largely suck outside of Kyle, maybe Enzo and if you are using what I am sure is a bugged ajax build.

As for components, again, you want HP first, id say you want to aim for a minimum of 10k health on any character.

Ok I see thanks gona to invest on HP now,I though DEF was better but google said is linked to HP ratio.

[I-Scream-4-Ice-Queen]

That's very Low, Ideally you want more HP than Defense but around 15-20k defense. Increase Stamina, Increase HP, and Increase Defense are most common mods ppl run. Also you need to have a External Set which grants you these traits even further or other traits like increased damage or resistance in order to maximize you character. i recommend the Annihilation set. Lastly Your reactor needs to match your weapon and it can boost your characters traits even further if it aligns with your build. Making you unkillable just about. i recommend googling the best reactor for your descendant.

[Monk]

Defence is odd, with diminishing returns and only works vs physical dmg.

Roughly speaking, you need to double your defence to gain 10% further dmg reduction, that is 10% of what you have not flat, so at
1000 defence you'll take 90% dmg,
at 2000 def you'll take 81%,
4000 72.9%,
8000 65.6%,
16k 58.5%,
32k 52.8%,
64k 46.8% etc these are rough numbers, but you get the point, defence is never stronger than more health and as you can see you are into serious diminishing returns by 20k.

If you want more survivability, one of the best mods seems to be the flat dmg reduction ones offering 7.5 or 10.5% reduction (seemingly from everything) with a secondary effect, mp / hp regen boost when you collect orbs etc.

As you can see, only ajax who scales off of his defence for his barriers wants to be heavily stacking defence

[Delphinus]

I can bet the people i see getting one shot have these same stats o.o I am currently around 17k HP 25k Def >.>

[feline]

2.5k hp . 15k def - _ -..

You got 1 hit from boss. I mean just normal attack from boss. not boss stomp .

You got 2 hit from normal mosnter lvl 100 - _ -.. @ farm ...

if you think its enough .. You are deathweight for Humanity . and ruin a game.
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[Pixelica]

DEF diminishing return start from 20k DEF, don't go beyond 20k DEF it's not worth it and you will get 1 hit with low HP from any elemental damage. HP is the most important in this game as for now.

[JamesFatio]

Originally posted by DEGU!:

go for MAX HP and dont bother with DEF

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB28ilEAOno&t=518s

I wouldn't just base everything off what these youtuber say. Having a good balance of HP and Def is key. I play ajax and apart from certain intercept bosses I'm unkillable because of how high I stacked def and hp.

[JamesFatio]

If you not playing ajax, try to at least get 20k def, its like the baseline for hardmode content.

[.augis]

My Bunny bossing build has 2.5k HP & 27k DEF and I'm doing just fine, although my mobility allows me to avoid unnecessary damage as well. Viessa should be somewhat fine as well since she gains a 30% movement speed increase with Frost Road, but for Gley, I think it's far too low, especially if you plan to play something like massacre build.

[Monk]

Originally posted by Mistwalker Mayakii:

My Bunny bossing build has 2.5k HP & 27k DEF and I'm doing just fine, although my mobility allows me to avoid unnecessary damage as well. Viessa should be somewhat fine as well since she gains a 30% movement speed increase with Frost Road, but for Gley, I think it's far too low, especially if you plan to play something like massacre build.

Defence mods instead of health is an odd choice, I mean, you still only have around 5k ehp like that, it's a pretty bad setup.

[.augis]

Originally posted by Monk:

Defence mods instead of health is an odd choice, I mean, you still only have around 5k ehp like that, it's a pretty bad setup.

My bossing setup doesn't have the best external component set (a lot of max shield & DEF, not a single HP stat), so you're not wrong about it being bad