Why are some reactor stat rolls in the game?

[Kerillian]

I'm farming for a gley non-attribute reactor I shouldn't see a "Fire attribute skill boost". This just dilute the pool and lead to more deadrot farming. This is coming from someone who would Shill for this game 1000% btw. Dev pls look at this.

[Grognak]

It's so weird that people dont complain about this.

[Kashra Fall]

Because if you got what you wanted 100% of the time, you'd play the game less. It's a time sink design to force you to play more, thus keep interest in the game.

[Inuakurei]

Because every loot game has trash rolls.

[天罗地网]

They need to keep you grind just so that you will keep playing, you have to remember this is a F2P game

[Kerillian]

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

Because if you got what you wanted 100% of the time, you'd play the game less. It's a time sink design to force you to play more, thus keep interest in the game.

Im not asking for 100%, im asking to remove redudant stats, keep in mind im not even asking for rerolling reactors, just meaningful loot

[Grognak]

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

Because if you got what you wanted 100% of the time, you'd play the game less. It's a time sink design to force you to play more, thus keep interest in the game.

The ammo/weapon type is RNG, skill type RNG, skill element RNG, Reactor element RNG, skill cost, cooldown, up time, crit, range, aso<- most of them also have a tier RNG. All of these RNG components in one single item.
How would removing 'skill element RNG' get you the perfect Reactor 100% of the time?
Atleast replace it with something useful, having something in the "drop table" that is 100% useless is ..interesting?

[youmustbebornagain777]

Add the ability to reroll one stat 3 times, I think that is about the best they can do for this type of game.

[Khal'cynee]

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

Because if you got what you wanted 100% of the time, you'd play the game less. It's a time sink design to force you to play more, thus keep interest in the game.

you dont get the point
every substats give you at least a minimal bonus, even if its not optimal its still something that dont screw you, and it also increase build variety
here if you have an unmatching elemental damage you are just doomed, its useless, no theorycrafting in the game will find any use of this

[Kashra Fall]

Originally posted by Khal'cynee:

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

Because if you got what you wanted 100% of the time, you'd play the game less. It's a time sink design to force you to play more, thus keep interest in the game.

you dont get the point
every substats give you at least a minimal bonus, even if its not optimal its still something that dont screw you, and it also increase build variety
here if you have an unmatching elemental damage you are just doomed, its useless, no theorycrafting in the game will find any use of this

No, I get it. What you don't get is you have to then farm again to find what you actually want. Do you realize how many fire reactors I've gotten with chill and went "Really?!" but it didn't stop me from farming until I got the one I wanted. Like I said, it's a time sink.

[Khal'cynee]

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

Originally posted by Khal'cynee:

you dont get the point
every substats give you at least a minimal bonus, even if its not optimal its still something that dont screw you, and it also increase build variety
here if you have an unmatching elemental damage you are just doomed, its useless, no theorycrafting in the game will find any use of this

No, I get it. What you don't get is you have to then farm again to find what you actually want. Do you realize how many fire reactors I've gotten with chill and went "Really?!" but it didn't stop me from farming until I got the one I wanted. Like I said, it's a time sink.

no you dont get it
its not about the time sink, it about the fact that these substats are totally useless, they dont bring any build variety to the game
i would rather they nerf reactor drop but they remove this dumb unmatching elemental substat to compensate, because this is plain stupid
its like having a substats empty of bonus, its not RNG, is just useless

[Kashra Fall]

Originally posted by Khal'cynee:

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

No, I get it. What you don't get is you have to then farm again to find what you actually want. Do you realize how many fire reactors I've gotten with chill and went "Really?!" but it didn't stop me from farming until I got the one I wanted. Like I said, it's a time sink.

no you dont get it
its not about the time sink, it about the fact that these substats are totally useless, they dont bring any build variety to the game
i would rather they nerf reactor drop but they remove this dumb unmatching elemental substat to compensate, because this is plain stupid
its like having a substats empty of bonus, its not RNG, is just useless

32.4% crit rate on my viessa, is 6% crit. That's a pretty big deal lol, it's the deciding factor of me either being over 50%, or under 50%. My chill boost is 1300 damage on my skills, so again, it's a pretty good buff. The sub stats are for minmaxing, they aren't required, so they are the one thing in the game (Outside of AM's) you'll spend the most time on.

[Khal'cynee]

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

Originally posted by Khal'cynee:

no you dont get it
its not about the time sink, it about the fact that these substats are totally useless, they dont bring any build variety to the game
i would rather they nerf reactor drop but they remove this dumb unmatching elemental substat to compensate, because this is plain stupid
its like having a substats empty of bonus, its not RNG, is just useless

32.4% crit rate on my viessa, is 6% crit. That's a pretty big deal lol, it's the deciding factor of me either being over 50%, or under 50%. My chill boost is 1300 damage on my skills, so again, it's a pretty good buff. The sub stats are for minmaxing, they aren't required, so they are the one thing in the game (Outside of AM's) you'll spend the most time on.

ok lets adds a +0 % crit rate then, and + 0 chill boost, you will be happy to have more useless stats ?
and they also doubled the reactor drop rate to compensate, so you will spend 75 % of your time in your inventory instead of playing, looks fun (no)

[Kashra Fall]

Originally posted by Khal'cynee:

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

32.4% crit rate on my viessa, is 6% crit. That's a pretty big deal lol, it's the deciding factor of me either being over 50%, or under 50%. My chill boost is 1300 damage on my skills, so again, it's a pretty good buff. The sub stats are for minmaxing, they aren't required, so they are the one thing in the game (Outside of AM's) you'll spend the most time on.

ok lets adds a +0 % crit rate then, and + 0 chill boost, you will be happy to have more useless stats ?
and they also doubled the reactor drop rate to compensate, so you will spend 75 % of your time in your inventory instead of playing, looks fun (no)

Yeah, I'd continue farming, that's the point of reactor farming. You farm to minmax, it isn't required. If you want the best, you just have to put in the work.

Tell me, how Easy do you want this game?

They made void shard farming simple/quick as opposed to requiring the correct descendant.
They made outposts easy/quick.
They made certain colossi easier.
They are going to be removing tedious hard mode dungeon mechanics.
They super buffed specific weapons (Like the EL)
They super nerfed reactor bosses to being made of paper.

What else do you want them to do for you?

[Kerillian]

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

Originally posted by Khal'cynee:

ok lets adds a +0 % crit rate then, and + 0 chill boost, you will be happy to have more useless stats ?
and they also doubled the reactor drop rate to compensate, so you will spend 75 % of your time in your inventory instead of playing, looks fun (no)

Yeah, I'd continue farming, that's the point of reactor farming. You farm to minmax, it isn't required. If you want the best, you just have to put in the work.

Tell me, how Easy do you want this game?

They made void shard farming simple/quick as opposed to requiring the correct descendant.
They made outposts easy/quick.
They made certain colossi easier.
They are going to be removing tedious hard mode dungeon mechanics.
They super buffed specific weapons (Like the EL)
They super nerfed reactor bosses to being made of paper.

What else do you want them to do for you?

coming from a guy who farmed 25 amorph before attempting every Gley Prime parts, I don't want easy, I want fun and meaningful loot, even if i didnt get gley i got crystal cata. for reactors i spend some 3 hours farming with nothing to show for it.

[Kashra Fall]

Originally posted by Kerillian:

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

Yeah, I'd continue farming, that's the point of reactor farming. You farm to minmax, it isn't required. If you want the best, you just have to put in the work.

Tell me, how Easy do you want this game?

They made void shard farming simple/quick as opposed to requiring the correct descendant.
They made outposts easy/quick.
They made certain colossi easier.
They are going to be removing tedious hard mode dungeon mechanics.
They super buffed specific weapons (Like the EL)
They super nerfed reactor bosses to being made of paper.

What else do you want them to do for you?

coming from a guy who farmed 25 amorph before attempting every Gley Prime parts, I don't want easy, I want fun and meaningful loot, even if i didnt get gley i got crystal cata. for reactors i spend some 3 hours farming with nothing to show for it.

That's just RNG though. You can get like 6-11 reactors in 4-5 minutes. The reason you have nothing to show for it, is you want something specific and for that, you have to work for it. It took me around 3 hours to find my lepic's reactor. Took me around 10 minutes to find my Freyna's, it's just RNG.