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Jul 15, 2024 @ 3:09pm
Colossus Hard mode with [[STUPID]] mechanics
Guys, what do you think of these mechanics that are in hard mode bosses?

I'm doing the icy walker and I thought the boss mechanic was pretty stupid.
What I mean is that when the match starts there is no time to discuss how the boss will be done, but a certain level of Synergy between the participants is necessary or the entire group will die at the beginning.

We need to break his weak points then collect the flames and also destroy the protectors on his legs when he becomes invulnerable (( besides that in this part he keeps walking without stopping which makes it quite difficult )) The first part of the wipe occurs at 7:30 How can we coordinate these mechanics with such a bad chat system and no time to discuss how it will be done?

I mean as soon as you arrive at the instance the match only takes a few seconds to start you don't have time to explain or talk to your teammates.

Furthermore, I can't go solo because these bosses have private mode disabled, forcing this bizarre matchmaking.

Would this just be crying on my part or do you also share the same thought?? let me know more about what you think
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😎Astran😾 Jul 15, 2024 @ 3:14pm 
Boss fights aren't even remotely fun. I guess they are presented to make folks buy those $24 slot upgrades for weapons and characters.

You should make a cheesing build and "erase" them while playing solo (like that Gley build which allow 20 second kills) :lunar2019piginablanket:
Noop Jul 15, 2024 @ 3:15pm 
Hard to tell tbh, I couldnt kill frost walker with randoms at all yet. My gear is perfectly fine and if it was soloable I would do that, but unfortunately you cant.

The issue is that people are lazy and stupid so a lot of folks have trash builds and dont understand simple boss mechanic. This however will change as time passes. I'll give it another 2 weeks and then see how the bosses are with randoms.
Drogoran Jul 15, 2024 @ 3:17pm 
i think its great
frost walker had me stumped till i googled it and realised that its not meant for me to pub group it, atleast not this early on in the game

im hoping they bring out more content aimed more towards organised teams rather than faceroll pub groups
Noop Jul 15, 2024 @ 3:19pm 
Actually there is 1 thing about frost walker they should change. I lost 2 runs cuz I picked up a flame without noticing it. The boss randomly runs at you and if your team mates shoot a body part the flame can spawn on top of you or behind you in your current path and you have 0 way to avoid it just cuz of stupid AI rng.

I honestly think AI in this game is kinda terrible in general. Often times enemies start to walk around a pillar in the room taking the long way to find me and I end up wasting several seconds running around the pillar trying to find an enemy which AI told it to use the longer way towards me.
This isnt an issue at first glance but once it happens all the time in every single mission where you try to be efficient and fast, then it suddenly is super ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ annoying.
Mordy Jul 15, 2024 @ 3:27pm 
Only hard mode boss mechanics giving you pause?

I mean, where have you been for the last hundred or so levels cos if you think that's crap then clearly you haven't been paying attention at all. :d2tidehunter:
Rogue Jul 15, 2024 @ 3:32pm 
Yet somehow somewhere, people found out the mechanics, defeated him, and created guides. The best of us and the worst of us.

What's funny is this is done by beta players in limited time window. :steamthumbsup:
Watermelon Knife Jul 15, 2024 @ 3:40pm 
As with anything new, it takes time for PUGs to catch up with how certain boss mechanics work. I waited almost two weeks before attempting the normal Hanged man, cause when I looked up the mechanics on a then eight month old (beta test) youtube video on the fight, pretty much anyone seeing it would have recognised it would take time for the community as a whole to understand how that fight was done. So rather than waste more time than the two attempts I did at the time, I waited almost two weeks before attempting it again, with just one other person understanding how the mechanics work.. It was a cakewalk!

Same thing will happen with many of the Hard mode Collusi with time, but if you want to do things with the current difficulty curve, then form a group before queuing up rather than just PUGGing and hoping for the best. If you don't want to form a group and discuss tactics before hand with that group, than that is your problem.
Guys, I'm embarrassed to say this, but I can't get past the pyromancer colossus. My build is at its limit, with the weapons adjusted to the boss's weakness and I don't die even once. When doing the boss in solo mode I don't get enough damage because he keeps focusing on me all the time, and when doing it with a random team, one or two teammates die all the time and we lose due to the death limit. Many of the people who play this game probably don't even have half a brain. The game became boring for me, due to this difficulty.
xTobu Jul 15, 2024 @ 5:06pm 
Get a group of friends to play with, idk why u arguing about not being able to do mechanics with pugs, it's been a thing for every pve based mmo/game in general
Jul 15, 2024 @ 5:15pm 
Originally posted by Histórias Picantes De Rocco 2:
Guys, I'm embarrassed to say this, but I can't get past the pyromancer colossus. My build is at its limit, with the weapons adjusted to the boss's weakness and I don't die even once. When doing the boss in solo mode I don't get enough damage because he keeps focusing on me all the time, and when doing it with a random team, one or two teammates die all the time and we lose due to the death limit. Many of the people who play this game probably don't even have half a brain. The game became boring for me, due to this difficulty.

Get ready because later on you will be forced to go through with a group. If you have 3 people who are at the same level as you, it is highly recommended that you play with them because with strangers it will depend a lot on luck. Good luck in the game :))
Vendon Jul 15, 2024 @ 5:18pm 
Boss mechanics that one shots whole party where always stupid. Just lazy programming. Everyone can put just an imminity mechanic or one shot crap. It's annoying and takes the fun away. I stoped playing Lost Ark because of stuff like that.
Jul 15, 2024 @ 5:18pm 
Originally posted by Watermelon Knife:
As with anything new, it takes time for PUGs to catch up with how certain boss mechanics work. I waited almost two weeks before attempting the normal Hanged man, cause when I looked up the mechanics on a then eight month old (beta test) youtube video on the fight, pretty much anyone seeing it would have recognised it would take time for the community as a whole to understand how that fight was done. So rather than waste more time than the two attempts I did at the time, I waited almost two weeks before attempting it again, with just one other person understanding how the mechanics work.. It was a cakewalk!

Same thing will happen with many of the Hard mode Collusi with time, but if you want to do things with the current difficulty curve, then form a group before queuing up rather than just PUGGing and hoping for the best. If you don't want to form a group and discuss tactics before hand with that group, than that is your problem.

I think this whole problem would be solved if we could type in the chat before the raid starts. This way, even with random players, a strategy could be defined or the mechanics explained and it makes the process much less painful. Well, based on the comments, it seems that most people don't share the same thoughts as me, so I believe things are good the way they are.
Traitor Jul 15, 2024 @ 5:24pm 
Frost Walker really shows you the people that got carried through previous fights. The amount of people that don't shoot weak points is crazy....
Hez Jul 15, 2024 @ 5:41pm 
Originally posted by Traitor:
Frost Walker really shows you the people that got carried through previous fights. The amount of people that don't shoot weak points is crazy....
I agree with this one. Unlike any other bosses before, Snow Walker literally skill check. Even 2 people can get enough flames in time(impossible solo without good sniper rifle or handcannon + good aim). I did 35 frost walker runs with randoms, and finished only 6. People really do not know what they are doing. And even if i spam which part to hit, or what to do, they still can't do it. They try to kill the boss as quickly as possible without realizing that they are killing the whole party.

I'm of the opposite opinion. Only Hanged man and Wrost Wallker are interesting bosses. All the others are just damage checks.
Last edited by Hez; Jul 15, 2024 @ 5:47pm
Crow Jul 15, 2024 @ 5:46pm 
Give it time for people to experience and learn. The community will have it on farm in a week or two. Remember last week when people were ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about normal dead bride?
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Date Posted: Jul 15, 2024 @ 3:09pm
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