The First Descendant

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侍Kage Jul 15, 2024 @ 9:02am
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How are you guys getting stuck on bosses?
Seriously, most of you even STUCK on NORMAL bosses. Which is crazy, I played this game since first hour of the launch, i killed all of the bosses one shot with a random matchamaking till hanged man. Today after taking a week away from the game, I farmed my ult ajax and decided to try hard bosses with matchmaking. I was on Executioner only, didn't try the rest. Guess what, from Dead Bride to Swamp Walker (also died) one shoted with a random matchmaking. I believe the next boss is also killable but i had 3 bunnies that were dying all day long.

You can call this rng maybe but i don't believe it. As long as you have good mods, good weapon mods, you can hold your ground and even carry +1 guy at least. The problem lies within you guys, you need to upgrade your modules for both char and weapon.

Btw I have never used Cata on any weapon or char so far. Only energy activators which games give you for free. But i used Valby for the hard bosses and she has no energy activator at all.

Problem is you, don't blame the game. Upgrade your characterr and weapon. Thanks.
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Synthx Jul 15, 2024 @ 9:05am 
Don't underestimate peoples ineptitude
Theutus Jul 15, 2024 @ 9:09am 
Where do you recommend I get enough Kuiper to upgrade weapon mods? I'm barely tickling Devourer's nut sack before he heals to full and the timer runs out.
jvjd Jul 15, 2024 @ 9:14am 
You give too much credit for the human race Op.
Simbah Jul 15, 2024 @ 9:16am 
I was struggling on normal Pyro for a while, even with maxed HP and Def mods. Does Resist mods matter that much? I wasn't exactly getting one-shotted when I did Pyro, but it felt like I didn't have enough defense to fight it properly. I always got my hp low with the DOTs.

And then there is the kuiper shards needed to upgrade mods. Every guide I see for farming shards is done in Hard mode. Well, I was stuck on normal Pyro so there is no way for me to get to Hard mode. No shards, no upgraded mods :/

I managed to beat Pyro eventually as Viessa with Lepic, Gley, and I think it was Freyna in my team. But I still feel like I didn't do it optimally.
Teykila Jul 15, 2024 @ 9:20am 
All normal boss can be carried but this hanged man...
I just had an Ajax second 0 run to the cube, take it, then run.
Instant leave from the 2 other players.
Maya-Neko Jul 15, 2024 @ 9:24am 
The game does a relatively bad job at explaining the importance of many systems, causing people to join bosses with insufficient defensive and offensive capabilities, especially since the auto-fill system for modules is a joke and doesn't really help in any way.

Originally posted by Simbah:
I was struggling on normal Pyro for a while, even with maxed HP and Def mods. Does Resist mods matter that much? I wasn't exactly getting one-shotted when I did Pyro, but it felt like I didn't have enough defense to fight it properly. I always got my hp low with the DOTs.

resistance isn't as important as other stats, since it has quite bad scaling. up to 5-7k is fine, but everything beyond that costs too much for too little improvements. That said, you can build it a littlebit, but def and even more so HP usually yield better results in raising your chances of survival.



Originally posted by Simbah:
And then there is the kuiper shards needed to upgrade mods. Every guide I see for farming shards is done in Hard mode. Well, I was stuck on normal Pyro so there is no way for me to get to Hard mode. No shards, no upgraded mods :/

Those farming missions also work on normal mode, it just takes longer since the enemies drop less stuff in general. You can also grind for weapons or descendants and farm kuiper in the respective missions.

Originally posted by Teykila:
All normal boss can be carried but this hanged man...
I just had an Ajax second 0 run to the cube, take it, then run.
Instant leave from the 2 other players.

Yeah, an instant leave is the only thing you can do there. Some people need to learn the hard way by having people constantly leave on them i guess.
Last edited by Maya-Neko; Jul 15, 2024 @ 9:25am
侍Kage Jul 15, 2024 @ 9:30am 
Originally posted by Simbah:
I was struggling on normal Pyro for a while, even with maxed HP and Def mods. Does Resist mods matter that much? I wasn't exactly getting one-shotted when I did Pyro, but it felt like I didn't have enough defense to fight it properly. I always got my hp low with the DOTs.

And then there is the kuiper shards needed to upgrade mods. Every guide I see for farming shards is done in Hard mode. Well, I was stuck on normal Pyro so there is no way for me to get to Hard mode. No shards, no upgraded mods :/

I managed to beat Pyro eventually as Viessa with Lepic, Gley, and I think it was Freyna in my team. But I still feel like I didn't do it optimally.
I don't think resistance matters man. I had no resistance mod for my character. Just make sure you have 2 HP mods at least, and defense mods. Make sure to not get too much damage from Immune phase of the bosses, you really don't have to attack their mini tube to end the immune. That's only there if your team does enough damage then break it, if that happens boss immunity phase ends early. Most of the team don't do enough damage, and immune phase has a timer we don't see. It ends on it's own if we can't break the tube. Therefore, instead of this, try to dodge his skills during this phase and try to survive instead. It helps a lot.
AAND Jul 15, 2024 @ 9:32am 
Well i think you mean first try not one shot -.-
Jon.Topps Jul 15, 2024 @ 9:42am 
My thought is, you probably rushed super fast, and the only people who rushed as fast as you were other people who want to beat the game instantly, and have the time to do it. Also, it's likely mostly people who are willing to pay money, so they're stronger. This will lend itself to this group of rushing players would also be likely to actually "think" about how to play the game, because they're not casual gamers. This means your auto-matchmaking would be awesome.

I've gone at a slower pace and taken my time, so I'm stuck with all the casuals who don't take it nearly as seriously. As an example, I was doing public matchmaking for pyro collossi... bunnies everywhere... Bunny is an AOE character for handling crowds, and it dies immediately. Collossi have no crowds, and hit hard, making Bunny horrible, and yet, these people run into boss battles with Bunny... That's why I've gotten temporarily stuck at times, just because people at the casual level don't bother thinking or reading or even understanding basic game mechanics.
Veckans Jul 16, 2024 @ 4:01pm 
Pyro on Normal with the gear you have when you reach it is pretty much impossible. I maxed out everything I could, followed guides and played without dying while still hitting most damage in the team. Still absolutely impossible to take down Pyro because my teammates weren't even lvl 40 nor did they have any gear or modules leveled.
Jon.Topps Jul 16, 2024 @ 4:08pm 
Originally posted by Veckans:
Pyro on Normal with the gear you have when you reach it is pretty much impossible. I maxed out everything I could, followed guides and played without dying while still hitting most damage in the team. Still absolutely impossible to take down Pyro because my teammates weren't even lvl 40 nor did they have any gear or modules leveled.
Interesting, I found it the opposite. I died the first bit just because the teams get swarmed with stupid bunnies that rely on others to carry them. The first time I had a team without bunnies, we won.
I was able to get over double the amount of resistance it recommends, plus tons of defense, so I think I either didn't go down, or only went down once. I used the correct mod for element type on the Tamer, and just unloaded on weak spots. Everyone else did the same. It went very smoothly.
But yeah, if your team sucks, you can't win. It's designed to be comfortable if everyone knows what they're doing.

Realistically, by level 60... people should know how to play the game, lol. Bunnies are not for boss battles, they're for AOE.
Usurper Slurper™ Jul 16, 2024 @ 4:11pm 
I have a feeling op is lying and paid to progress.
Nebiros Jul 16, 2024 @ 4:12pm 
Originally posted by Jon.Topps:
Originally posted by Veckans:
Pyro on Normal with the gear you have when you reach it is pretty much impossible. I maxed out everything I could, followed guides and played without dying while still hitting most damage in the team. Still absolutely impossible to take down Pyro because my teammates weren't even lvl 40 nor did they have any gear or modules leveled.
Interesting, I found it the opposite. I died the first bit just because the teams get swarmed with stupid bunnies that rely on others to carry them. The first time I had a team without bunnies, we won.
I was able to get over double the amount of resistance it recommends, plus tons of defense, so I think I either didn't go down, or only went down once. I used the correct mod for element type on the Tamer, and just unloaded on weak spots. Everyone else did the same. It went very smoothly.
But yeah, if your team sucks, you can't win. It's designed to be comfortable if everyone knows what they're doing.

Realistically, by level 60... people should know how to play the game, lol. Bunnies are not for boss battles, they're for AOE.

you can build bunny for boss battles with certain modules

but yeah bunny isnt great for the most of them
Nebiros Jul 16, 2024 @ 4:13pm 
Originally posted by Veckans:
Pyro on Normal with the gear you have when you reach it is pretty much impossible. I maxed out everything I could, followed guides and played without dying while still hitting most damage in the team. Still absolutely impossible to take down Pyro because my teammates weren't even lvl 40 nor did they have any gear or modules leveled.

than it isnt impossible with the available gear level

its nearly impossible with bad teammates, which are thinking they can always play the same and get carried
Kabaale Jul 16, 2024 @ 4:15pm 
Getting carried and calling others people noob...smh
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Date Posted: Jul 15, 2024 @ 9:02am
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