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Autoimmunity (rare desc module) bug or feature?
All guard skills reduce incomming damage. 3 have a 3% modifier and a negative attribute to even it out, psychological victory has a 2%, but a positiv effect. But Autoimmunity has BOTH 3% AND a positive efffect, so is better than the others. To go into detail here the stats for the guard modules:

Autoimmunity: -3% incomming damage modifier, +7.4 HP recovery
Psychological Victory: -2% incomming dmaage modifier, +3% MP recovery.
Pain reliever: -3% incomming damage modifier, outgoing damage modifier -2.5%
Sensory Dep (MP); -3% incomming damage modifier, Max MP -1.5%
Sensory Dep (HP): -3% incomming dmaage modifier, Max HP -1.3%

If I am not reading something wrong, Pain reliever, Sensory Dep (HP/MP) have a negative second attribute. Psychological has less bonus, but second positiv. But Autoimmunity has the maximum plus a positiv, so if that is not bug, it means autoimmunity is better than the other in general.
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Agnus 15 iul. 2024 la 20:22 
I just want to know in the case of Psychological Victory: -2% incomming damage modifier, this means that we get 2% less damage from all attacks?
jandraelune 15 iul. 2024 la 21:11 
The 3% is so tiny its meaningless once you get to Dead Bride. So they could have had a positive with all of with and still not made any worth it. Another 1k def is 5%.
Lamiosa 16 iul. 2024 la 0:47 
Postat inițial de jandraelune:
The 3% is so tiny its meaningless once you get to Dead Bride. So they could have had a positive with all of with and still not made any worth it. Another 1k def is 5%.

It is still a balancing issue bug. Just because you did not discover it and cannot accept other people discovered something, there is no need to give a clown. This is not a troll, but something that really is in game. Also I did not rate it, just announced that it is wrong as a bug.

Btw. you still now you can upgrade it up to 10.5%. If you say 10.5% less damage on every attack is nothing, then have it your way.
Editat ultima dată de Lamiosa; 16 iul. 2024 la 0:53
Lamiosa 16 iul. 2024 la 0:49 
Postat inițial de Agnus:
I just want to know in the case of Psychological Victory: -2% incomming damage modifier, this means that we get 2% less damage from all attacks?

Yes, incomming damage reduction means damage reduction on attack and outgoing damage reduction means we do less damage. So incomming in beneficial and outgoing negative.

-3% is just the base, you can upgrade it up to 10.5%. So it can make a difference.
Editat ultima dată de Lamiosa; 16 iul. 2024 la 0:52
deadlyuo 16 iul. 2024 la 2:08 
Postat inițial de jandraelune:
The 3% is so tiny its meaningless once you get to Dead Bride. So they could have had a positive with all of with and still not made any worth it. Another 1k def is 5%.

People like you is the reason the player level in this game is trash .... they are just clueless .
Lamiosa 16 iul. 2024 la 2:14 
Postat inițial de deadlyuo:
Postat inițial de jandraelune:
The 3% is so tiny its meaningless once you get to Dead Bride. So they could have had a positive with all of with and still not made any worth it. Another 1k def is 5%.

People like you is the reason the player level in this game is trash .... they are just clueless .

Thanks, actually to get it checked, I send the information to a content creator who calculates stuff, so I get checked if 10.5% incomming damage reduction is useful or really trash. If I get result, I will post it here.

Also need to keep in mind, that you need 10k def for each new bonus on reduction, which would take a calculation on spending ressources for modules (for example upgrading rather def for another 10k or upgrading a guard-module).

So if the 10.5% is "trash" as claimed, needs calculation, sadly people are fast into handing out clowns, even if it is a real topic about wrong numbers in modules and not a troll.
I was just saying investing in just def modules goes further in investment spent with returned dmg reduction.
Lamiosa 16 iul. 2024 la 5:11 
Postat inițial de jandraelune:
I was just saying investing in just def modules goes further in investment spent with returned dmg reduction.

At some point it doesn't pay out anymore and you need to spend more into def than into damage reduction. At about 50K Def you would need about 80k-100k def next to get the 10% additional damage reduction.

Don't tell me it is cheaper to go from 50k to 80k defense than to put it to 50k defense and get a 10.5% incomming reduction module.

Here is a video, if you want to know the math behind:
https://youtu.be/9icoHau-Uxc?si=7dXwAHH5Z6Uv1nmK
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