Think of drop rates based on the chance of failure...(basic Math inside)

[Fast]

Itll help you understand.

Here is some basic math you can do.

Lets say you want a 20% drop rate item.
You do the Percentage chance not to get the item multiplied by the number of times opened multiplied by 100 to get the average chance of a drop.

In this example we do an 80% chance of failure, by 10 openings * 100 to give us the percentage.
(80%) ^ 10 * 100 = 10.737% chance NOT to get the item on average after 10 runs.

Another example : (94%) ^ 10 * 100 = 53.861% chance NOT to get the item with a 6% drop chance in 10 openings.

[PortalShifter]

I'll help you understand.

Nexon uses variable drop rates to sell more items on the cash shop.

[Fast]

Originally posted by PortalShifter:

I'll help you understand.

Nexon uses variable drop rates to sell more items on the cash shop.

Assuming they are not lying. This is not the case. Based on their statement. They are flat percentages.

[amathy]

Originally posted by PortalShifter:

I'll help you understand.

Nexon uses variable drop rates to sell more items on the cash shop.

Most of the important drops are not available in the shop.

[Lilu Vakarian]

If you like math maybe you should look at the Expected and nearly Guaranted loot math from the Warframe Community.

https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:FINNER/Warframe_Expected_%26_Nearly_Guaranteed_Numbers_-_An_Explanation

[Fast]

Originally posted by Lilu Vakarian:

If you like math maybe you should look at the Expected and nearly Guaranted loot math from the Warframe Community.

https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:FINNER/Warframe_Expected_%26_Nearly_Guaranteed_Numbers_-_An_Explanation

It uses the exact math I just presented. getting you down to a 1% failure rate. You can never hit 100% because chance exists not to get the item.

For a 6% drop in this game you need around 74 openings for a 1% failure rate.

[*G3t_R3kt*]

I basically think the drop rate is rigged af
Like many post in this community already post
I have some other information is that it is bugged .

Like for example , Imagine doing 10 times of hard bossed guarantee 100% you to get a catalysm
But nope . There are none for me, and for other people as well xD
I think Nexon Rigged drop rate so hard so it even appear 100% mean < 100% or = 0% xD

This is for fun but think about it xD

[Fast]

Originally posted by *G3t_R3kt*:

I basically think the drop rate is rigged af
Like many post in this community already post
I have some other information is that it is bugged .

Like for example , Imagine doing 10 times of hard bossed guarantee 100% you to get a catalysm
But nope . There are none for me, and for other people as well xD
I think Nexon Rigged drop rate so hard so it even appear 100% mean < 100% or = 0% xD

This is for fun but think about it xD

I dont think it is, i think people just dont understand chance.

[*G3t_R3kt*]

Originally posted by Fast:

Originally posted by *G3t_R3kt*:

I basically think the drop rate is rigged af
Like many post in this community already post
I have some other information is that it is bugged .

Like for example , Imagine doing 10 times of hard bossed guarantee 100% you to get a catalysm
But nope . There are none for me, and for other people as well xD
I think Nexon Rigged drop rate so hard so it even appear 100% mean < 100% or = 0% xD

This is for fun but think about it xD

I dont think it is, i think people just dont understand chance.

No What i mean is imagine Doing 10 hard bosses quest is an 100% of getting the Catalysm
But many many people include me. Done that and poof. Nothing
Is like 100% is still not enough because they bugged the whole system

And disclaimer this is just for fun theory . But thing actually happen

[Fast]

Originally posted by *G3t_R3kt*:

Originally posted by Fast:

I dont think it is, i think people just dont understand chance.

No What i mean is imagine Doing 10 hard bosses quest is an 100% of getting the Catalysm
But many many people include me. Done that and poof. Nothing
Is like 100% is still not enough because they bugged the whole system

And disclaimer this is just for fun theory . But thing actually happen

I do understand the on occasion you can clear something and get 0 rewards, like an empty reward screen. Thats probably a bug. But the drop rates themselves are fine.

[*G3t_R3kt*]

Originally posted by Fast:

Originally posted by *G3t_R3kt*:

No What i mean is imagine Doing 10 hard bosses quest is an 100% of getting the Catalysm
But many many people include me. Done that and poof. Nothing
Is like 100% is still not enough because they bugged the whole system

And disclaimer this is just for fun theory . But thing actually happen

I do understand the on occasion you can clear something and get 0 rewards, like an empty reward screen. Thats probably a bug. But the drop rates themselves are fine.

This is a reward from a quest. not from some mission. And that catalysm is big ol big reward man. And not me, whole bunch of people not getting it . It like RNG to get it ,

Now I find that catalysm farming is easy so I don't get complain about it anymore. But think it as a 100% but still not getting it.

And base on history of NEXON . That might be the case

[M I L K M A N]

Originally posted by *G3t_R3kt*:

Originally posted by Fast:

I dont think it is, i think people just dont understand chance.

No What i mean is imagine Doing 10 hard bosses quest is an 100% of getting the Catalysm
But many many people include me. Done that and poof. Nothing
Is like 100% is still not enough because they bugged the whole system

And disclaimer this is just for fun theory . But thing actually happen

The devs have confirmed that this is a bug and they are working on a fix :)) this is not a chance or probability issue, this is a bug in the game.

[*G3t_R3kt*]

Originally posted by M I L K M A N:

Originally posted by *G3t_R3kt*:

No What i mean is imagine Doing 10 hard bosses quest is an 100% of getting the Catalysm
But many many people include me. Done that and poof. Nothing
Is like 100% is still not enough because they bugged the whole system

And disclaimer this is just for fun theory . But thing actually happen

The devs have confirmed that this is a bug and they are working on a fix :)) this is not a chance or probability issue, this is a bug in the game.

Maybe later if someone like find out about the drop chance
They still said it a bugged :(

[Joikax]

I made this comparison before and I'll pull it up again: Anyone that has ever played XCOM (EU/EW or 2) on anything above regular difficulty knows 10% chances are not THAT rare at all when ran consecutivelly, yet in this game they feel much lower than advertised and heck even 20%ers feel as rare as winning a lottery.

It just doesn't feel right when you put it side by side with other chance games and realise you probably would have gotten it already many times over elsewhere, as you should.