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Kelisitina Jul 14, 2024 @ 10:33pm
Regarding the catastrophic bug in Ultimate Viessa's mod Absolute-Zero
1.
When Ultimate Viessa is equipped with the Absolute Zero mod, the skill power boost ratio of Frozen Singularity Reactor does not take effect.

2.
When Ultimate Viessa is equipped with the Absolute Zero mod and clairvoyance, regardless of whether critical hit is caused or not, it cannot cause colossus to enter frostbite state. At the same time, Polar Night 4 set does not take effect, and the character skill Absolute Zero cannot be triggered.
By the way, skill critical hits cannot be triggered either.

So,If you are an Ultimate Viessa player, please submit a request with me.
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Lil Deaf Jul 20, 2024 @ 11:42pm 
Does clarivoyance crits proc Absolute-Zero ice sphere?
Shyba Jul 20, 2024 @ 11:45pm 
Originally posted by Lil Deaf:
Does clarivoyance crits proc Absolute-Zero ice sphere?
not at the game right now but doesn't AZ specify Skill crits? pretty sure it's triggers orbs AND frost bite on crits it's not orbs on frostbite
Lil Deaf Jul 20, 2024 @ 11:48pm 
Originally posted by Shyba:
Originally posted by Lil Deaf:
Does clarivoyance crits proc Absolute-Zero ice sphere?
not at the game right now but doesn't AZ specify Skill crits? pretty sure it's triggers orbs AND frost bite on crits it's not orbs on frostbite

Absolute-zero said if any frotsbite creates ice spheres. clairvoyance can create a form of frostbite in phase 3 beam
Shyba Jul 20, 2024 @ 11:52pm 
Originally posted by Lil Deaf:
Originally posted by Shyba:
not at the game right now but doesn't AZ specify Skill crits? pretty sure it's triggers orbs AND frost bite on crits it's not orbs on frostbite

Absolute-zero said if any frotsbite creates ice spheres. clairvoyance can create a form of frostbite in phase 3 beam
on the skill mod yes but the actual passive is not it's "on skill crit create sphere on critical hit (of the orb itself) inflict frostbite" that last part is on ALL of her skills btw

AZ changes her orb mechanic to crit based (to coincide her her new frostbite mechanic) however it ALSO breaks her orb mechanic on collosus because of it they should be 2 seperate effects not 1 effect that does 2 things because right now she's "Crippled" on Colossus (without the orbs she's effectively handicapped right now WITH the orbs she'd blow away Hypothermia which is rightfully so from an Ult exclusive mod)
Last edited by Shyba; Jul 21, 2024 @ 12:00am
Lil Deaf Jul 21, 2024 @ 12:00am 
Originally posted by Shyba:
Originally posted by Lil Deaf:

Absolute-zero said if any frotsbite creates ice spheres. clairvoyance can create a form of frostbite in phase 3 beam
on the skill mod yes but the actual passive is not it's "on skill crit create sphere ALSO inflict frostbite on skill crit" Crit is supposed to be the source HOWEVER...

the BIGGER issue is because frostbite is tied to the skill crit the skill crit DOESNT do the sphere half of it because Colossus are rightfully immune to a spammable stun
Regardless you should be procing frostbite stacks on the colossi, they wont be frozen, they will just get slowed instead. I think so, i may be wrong. But my objective with the absolute-zero (i need to farm for it) and clairvoyance is that the clairvoyance has a Stage 3 Beam debuff called "Appalled Calling" which is "considered to be the same effect as frostbite in some modes". I just want to know if that stage 3 beam will create ice spheres due to to the "Appalled Calling" and can build that up and spam ice spheres due to the Absolute-Zero."
Shyba Jul 21, 2024 @ 12:03am 
Originally posted by Lil Deaf:
Originally posted by Shyba:
on the skill mod yes but the actual passive is not it's "on skill crit create sphere ALSO inflict frostbite on skill crit" Crit is supposed to be the source HOWEVER...

the BIGGER issue is because frostbite is tied to the skill crit the skill crit DOESNT do the sphere half of it because Colossus are rightfully immune to a spammable stun
Regardless you should be procing frostbite stacks on the colossi, they wont be frozen, they will just get slowed instead. I think so, i may be wrong. But my objective with the absolute-zero (i need to farm for it) and clairvoyance is that the clairvoyance has a Stage 3 Beam debuff called "Appalled Calling" which is "considered to be the same effect as frostbite in some modes". I just want to know if that stage 3 beam will create ice spheres due to to the "Appalled Calling" and can build that up and spam ice spheres due to the Absolute-Zero."
nah frostbite doesn't slow that's chill/ice shackles Frostbite is specifically the 2 second freeze effect triggered by AZ and chill gun damage Clairvoyance is just "special" in that it's unique slow COUNTS as frostbite for the purposes of polar night.

as for clairvoyance triggering orbs it shouldn't. since it specifies Skill crits(on the passive itself)

mind you that could be incorrect... since the mod itself says "on frostbite create sphere" and Collossus don't trigger spheres but CAN be crit.... so maybe the actual passive text is wrong and it IS on frostbite (Which would be incredibly dumb because it makes anything immune to frostbite cripple her entire passive)

either way something is incorrect
Last edited by Shyba; Jul 21, 2024 @ 12:09am
Lil Deaf Jul 21, 2024 @ 12:08am 
Originally posted by Shyba:
Originally posted by Lil Deaf:
Regardless you should be procing frostbite stacks on the colossi, they wont be frozen, they will just get slowed instead. I think so, i may be wrong. But my objective with the absolute-zero (i need to farm for it) and clairvoyance is that the clairvoyance has a Stage 3 Beam debuff called "Appalled Calling" which is "considered to be the same effect as frostbite in some modes". I just want to know if that stage 3 beam will create ice spheres due to to the "Appalled Calling" and can build that up and spam ice spheres due to the Absolute-Zero."
nah frostbite doesn't slow that's chill/ice shackles Frostbite is specifically the 2 second freeze effect Clairvoyance is just "special" in that it's unique slow COUNTS as frostbite for the purposes of polar night.

as for clairvoyance triggering orbs it shouldn't. since it specifies Skill crits(on the passive itself)

mind you that could be incorrect... since the mod itself says "on frostbite create sphere" and Collossus don't trigger spheres but CAN be crit.... so maybe the actual passive text is wrong and it IS on frostbite (Which would be incredibly dumb because it makes anything immune to frostbite cripple her entire passive)
Hmm, alright. thanks for the info. I am just trying to see if that would work. I guess not. I got a maxed out clairvoyance and im trying to synergize better with viessa
Shyba Jul 21, 2024 @ 12:10am 
Originally posted by Lil Deaf:
Originally posted by Shyba:
nah frostbite doesn't slow that's chill/ice shackles Frostbite is specifically the 2 second freeze effect Clairvoyance is just "special" in that it's unique slow COUNTS as frostbite for the purposes of polar night.

as for clairvoyance triggering orbs it shouldn't. since it specifies Skill crits(on the passive itself)

mind you that could be incorrect... since the mod itself says "on frostbite create sphere" and Collossus don't trigger spheres but CAN be crit.... so maybe the actual passive text is wrong and it IS on frostbite (Which would be incredibly dumb because it makes anything immune to frostbite cripple her entire passive)
Hmm, alright. thanks for the info. I am just trying to see if that would work. I guess not. I got a maxed out clairvoyance and im trying to synergize better with viessa
and 've got a maxed Viessa and no Clairvoyance lmao or i'd give you actual hard data on if it worked :( everything i've seen shows clairvoyance to be pretty bad though =/ but i haven't seen anyone really test it with AZ only with Coldblooded/hypo
Last edited by Shyba; Jul 21, 2024 @ 12:11am
Lil Deaf Jul 21, 2024 @ 12:12am 
Originally posted by Shyba:
Originally posted by Lil Deaf:
Hmm, alright. thanks for the info. I am just trying to see if that would work. I guess not. I got a maxed out clairvoyance and im trying to synergize better with viessa
and 've got a maxed Viessa and no Clairvoyance lmao or i'd give you actual hard data on if it worked :(
Well I will be grinding for absolute-zero tomorrow. So I will get data if i get the mod and i will let you know in this thread.
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Date Posted: Jul 14, 2024 @ 10:33pm
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