Tamer is not a good gun

[D. Flame]

The DPS is good, but it's not that good. The DPS is barely better than the Thundercage that you are given for free, but the tamer slows your movespeed to a crawl. You are going to be eating every bullet coming your way if you use this thing. It's default reload speed is also terrible.

Thunder Cage > Tamer

[DDENN]

gley can do 9 sec super sense which no consume ammo and it can reach 10 sec cooldown. that u can do pure atk and atkspeed with no reload.

[DDENN]

u can try this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxqNYYDDHnc

[ホロ]

Originally posted by DDENN:

gley can do 9 sec super sense which no consume ammo and it can reach 10 sec cooldown. that u can do pure atk and atkspeed with no reload.

afaik
super sense limits or fix the the fire rate / attack speed of a weapon. so its only good in slow firing weapon like snipers mostly purple

[D. Flame]

Originally posted by DDENN:

u can try this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxqNYYDDHnc

Pay to win build, so I probably won't.

[Ravtec]

This person is not wrong, tamer while good require alot more work from new players to compete with cage.

[LegendaryBot]

Originally posted by D. Flame:

Originally posted by Nebiros:

thunder cage is good to clear trash mobs, tamer is good for bosses

Thundercage works fine for bosses too, and its DPS is not far behind the tamers, and it also lets you walk out of the way of boss's attack while continuing to attack.

skill issue

[Kayso]

I have lvl 84 Tamer and Thunder Cage. Have 1 socket done on the Tamer and the Thunder Cage is upgraded once. As an Ajax main at least the Thunder Cage isn't even close to the Tamer. The proc on the AOE isn't worth it on trash mobs either.

[Jokoff Schön]

Originally posted by p00se2:

Originally posted by Shaidon:

What I like about the Thunder Cage is the AoE, but the reloading sux.

dodge to cancel reload animation :summeryeti:


thundercage AoE is excellent damage for killing trash


my thunderclap has 494k dps
currently unlocking gley
to ensure massive spam with either weapon :lunar2019piginablanket:

use grappling hook at air instead of dodge

dodge takes a second and grappling 0,4(ish) seconds

[PølseJuice]

Originally posted by D. Flame:

Originally posted by Shaidon:

What I like about the Thunder Cage is the AoE, but the reloading sux. Too frequent. And if I improve it, I need to sacrifice damage.
Tamer seems to be better used on bosses.

There are gamers that I call them technical. They bring the numbers and give instructions, usually with edgy builds to maximize something. To be the most effective as possible. I'm not against it, but I really dislike when I feel compeled to play as someone else style, cause the game make things too difficult.

Unfortune a lot of games are balanced like that. Taking in considerations the technical players with their new found metas, and start with nerfs.

This game doesn't cater to technical players. It caters to whales. The people who will spend a ton of money to upgrade their gear to crazy levels, then just face tank boss attacks while holding down the trigger.

There is no skill nor technique required. Just pay-to-win. Pay for drop rate boosters, extra capacity and extra mod slot formats. Then pay for weapon rerolls. Then once your paid to be absolutely busted, just hold down the trigger to win.

I think there is a freyna video floating around that shows that off perfectly well.

I spend 0 money on the game, and blasting with my tamer as ajax.
The issue is majority of players like you are bad, and think you can survive with 3k hp xD get some hp and def, and git gud my dude.

50k hp ajax out!

[Min/Max]

Personally I prefer my Thunder cage as it does over 500k damage

[PølseJuice]

Originally posted by The First Descendant Fan:

Personally I prefer my Thunder cage as it does over 500k damage

the dps means nothing, as the game doesn't take multiple factors into account, and there is multiple videos about it already.
Pretty sure my "390k" dps tamer can outdps any thundercage on a boss

[D. Flame]

Originally posted by PølseJuice:

Originally posted by D. Flame:

This game doesn't cater to technical players. It caters to whales. The people who will spend a ton of money to upgrade their gear to crazy levels, then just face tank boss attacks while holding down the trigger.

There is no skill nor technique required. Just pay-to-win. Pay for drop rate boosters, extra capacity and extra mod slot formats. Then pay for weapon rerolls. Then once your paid to be absolutely busted, just hold down the trigger to win.

I think there is a freyna video floating around that shows that off perfectly well.

I spend 0 money on the game, and blasting with my tamer as ajax.
The issue is majority of players like you are bad, and think you can survive with 3k hp xD get some hp and def, and git gud my dude.

50k hp ajax out!

Like I said, it only becomes a decent weapon when you can remove player skill from the the equation and just face tank with the weapon. Then you try to argue against my point by saying you face tank? LOL, all you did was prove my point for me.

And grinding until you are basically unkillable is not "git gud" material. It is "get grinding" material, and the game sells boosters and such to ease that grind.

[Pocahawtness]

I think the real advantage of the Tamer is the lack of reloading. It's damage isn't that great, but what is great is it's sustained DPS. It handles almost any situation because you aren't reloading it all the time. Those reloading breaks can be dangerous with other guns.
It's accuracy at range isn't great, but it has enough bullets to make up for that.
All in all, I can see why it is so popular. It's a great all-round gun.

[xXBulletJusticeXx]

Originally posted by D. Flame:

The DPS is good, but it's not that good. The DPS is barely better than the Thundercage that you are given for free, but the tamer slows your movespeed to a crawl. You are going to be eating every bullet coming your way if you use this thing. It's default reload speed is also terrible.

Thunder Cage > Tamer

Tamer is for Colossi. Thunder Cage is for Mob clearing.

[AI NPC]

not a fan of the tamer either loss of mobility is not worth the extra ammo in the mag