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ReaperKing Jul 12, 2024 @ 10:40pm
EasyAnti Cheat judges FanControl ...
Hey there, today the EasyAntiCheat-Engine thought that the program Fan Control is cheatware, nice!

I hope they will fix it, because I have Fan-Profiles for the best cooling of my hardware!
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Fake Jul 12, 2024 @ 10:47pm 
Why are you using a program to control your fans?

Just set your fan speeds in bios.
ReaperKing Jul 13, 2024 @ 10:51am 
Originally posted by Fake:
Why are you using a program to control your fans?

Just set your fan speeds in bios.

Bios is rough, straight and simple.
Fan Control is the opposite - plus - it's fine tuning.
Fan-Ramping-Acceleration f.e. - is an option that Bios doesn't have.

I do control the airflow by Fan Control in independency of the Hotspot - GPU or CPU.
Bios .. can't do that.

Bios takes straight the CPU temperature and doesn't cares about the GPU.
However, even the GPU has a Hotspot and I can't implement this sensor to Fan-Ramping in Bios, but Fan Control can do that.

3090 Ti "Overclocked" isn't true, but very well optimized for the last tiny peace of performance - that creates heat.
AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D - is like a vulcan and creates a lot of heat that I need to get rid off and Bios would do it's job, but Fan Control does it better in so many ways.
Last edited by ReaperKing; Jul 13, 2024 @ 10:52am
Arc Jul 13, 2024 @ 11:35am 
Originally posted by Fake:
Just set your fan speeds in bios.
You are boldly assuming that all UEFIs gives you the same options. They don't.

Originally posted by ReaperKing:
Hey there, today the EasyAntiCheat-Engine thought that the program Fan Control is cheatware, nice!

I hope they will fix it, because I have Fan-Profiles for the best cooling of my hardware!
Never had issues with EAC complaining about FanControl before. Though i'm using an older v175 revision atm.

EAC, or, anti-cheats in general, usually only block injectors and DLLs referenced by the game code if they do not match CRC.
Pitty Jul 13, 2024 @ 11:39am 
Originally posted by Arc:
Originally posted by Fake:
Just set your fan speeds in bios.
You are boldly assuming that all UEFIs gives you the same options. They don't.

Originally posted by ReaperKing:
Hey there, today the EasyAntiCheat-Engine thought that the program Fan Control is cheatware, nice!

I hope they will fix it, because I have Fan-Profiles for the best cooling of my hardware!
Never had issues with EAC complaining about FanControl before. Though i'm using an older v175 revision atm.

EAC, or, anti-cheats in general, usually only block injectors and DLLs referenced by the game code if they do not match CRC.
tbh if your mobo doesnt have any fan controll you should consider to not get some 19 hundrets mobo xD
Arc Jul 13, 2024 @ 11:43am 
It doesn't say "any" it says "the same".
The amount of features and sensors a lot of UEFI fan control offers is decent for basic control but once you want to have specific trigger conditions or use different sensors to trigger the fans, you are mostly out of luck.

Besides the point is EAC, not UEFI fan control.
Last edited by Arc; Jul 13, 2024 @ 11:44am
Sagara Jul 13, 2024 @ 11:52am 
Malware just being malware.... no surprise sadly
ReaperKing Jul 14, 2024 @ 7:07am 
Originally posted by Sagara:
Malware just being malware.... no surprise sadly
You have seriously no plan what the F you are talking about.

Fan Control is one of the most Powerful Softwares every "Gamer" and "Enthusiast" should have on his PC.
REVO Uninstaller Pro is one of them as well.

PLUS: What Arc wrote is ture.

After some more investigation into the problem I found out, that it was a bug or overreaction of EasyAntiCheat and never happened again so far.
Was fixed fast!
Updates on the EAC-Library as well as a tiny fix of FC.

... to not get some 19 hundreds mobo ... wtf ... How ould you know about the mobo we got?!^^
Mostly, the more expensive ones have some more features, that the more cheaper ones don't have.
I bought the ASUS ROG Strix X670E-E Gaming WiFi only because it's supporting 1x 16x PCIe 5.0 beside of 2x 4x NVMe PCIe 5.0 for SSD's, just get prepaired for (cheaper) PCIe 5.0 SSD's.
That mobo wasn't ever inm the near of 1k!

You really don't know a lot about HW in general ... for sure some sort of "Industrial Product LineUp" against selfmade PC-Build.

How ever - there's no need for blaming or flaming around ... or judging someone who investigated more money into his rig ... so there's also no need to be jealous.

-peace-
Moga CMDR Jul 14, 2024 @ 7:09am 
They meant that the anti-cheat is malware. Pretty sure.
Last edited by Moga CMDR; Jul 14, 2024 @ 7:10am
Sanzor Jul 14, 2024 @ 7:26am 
MSI Afterburner is another option for fan control and you only need to run it once. No need for having it in the background. It shows the graph set by brand for how fans should react. You can fine tune this quite a lot including how fast you want fans to ramp up.
ReaperKing Jul 15, 2024 @ 4:33am 
Originally posted by Sanzor:
MSI Afterburner is another option for fan control and you only need to run it once. No need for having it in the background. It shows the graph set by brand for how fans should react. You can fine tune this quite a lot including how fast you want fans to ramp up.

GPU-Fan-Profile isn't the problem, but the Case-Fans... I had to protect my HW against secondary air intake, because the place where I'm living, the air contains a high proportion of textile dust.
I therefore sealed the pc-case.

To supply enough air to the GPU, I have installed an additional fan under the GPU to direct the airflow accordingly. So, some oft the intake-fans in combination with the additional fan are working together further combinated with the top-exhaust-fans.

IF the GPU is more hot than the CPU, the airstream is flowing from the buttom upwards and if the CPU gets more hot than the GPU, the airstream gets straight through the case.

I guess ... If I do remember it correctly, I should have some fotos shared on my Steam-Profile.

My PC or the fans of my case, are able to suck in the airvolume of the room 7 times in one hour at ~46db at maximum, but only if every fans runs at 100% rpm, which they never do or need (fortunately).
Bench Jul 27, 2024 @ 2:22pm 
Make sure to uncheck InpOut in Settings/Sources, EAC only craps itself because the driver is not signed.

This is a known issue for multiple games and has already been reported on GitHub - https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases/issues/2104

EAC only checks the hash and compares it to their db, everything else that is not signed is automatically "suspicious",
It's really stupid because only Microsoft can sign drivers and the process to get it signed is ridiculous for smaller developers.
Last edited by Bench; Jul 27, 2024 @ 2:23pm
ReaperKing Jul 27, 2024 @ 11:43pm 
Originally posted by Bench:
Make sure to uncheck InpOut in Settings/Sources, EAC only craps itself because the driver is not signed.

This is a known issue for multiple games and has already been reported on GitHub - https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases/issues/2104

EAC only checks the hash and compares it to their db, everything else that is not signed is automatically "suspicious",
It's really stupid because only Microsoft can sign drivers and the process to get it signed is ridiculous for smaller developers.

It's Microsoft who charges enormous masses of money to get a driver signed by them.
Money ... it's all about the money ... it's great!^^

I got luck so far, because it had happened only once so far ...after 80hrs+ of gameplay.
Thank you very much for your investigations into this problem.

-greetz- Reaper
Last edited by ReaperKing; Jul 27, 2024 @ 11:43pm
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